Sat May 1 00:42:58 1999 http://come.to/ces		CES>	Jake, I am not a schoolteacher. My last name just happens to be "Schoolcraft". I go by my initials (as my main alias), CES, but I am also known as: CESchoolcraft, CES Mastermind, and Lobsterman. Also, because my first name is "Colby", I am known as Cody, Tody, etc... Also, I won't use those words anymore, WinterKight (I rarely use them anyway, except on my new chat group that tries anything to make people leave a chat area.) Just a note: if anybody is interested in joining, e-mail me. Also, my website is down for a while. Just access it manually at www.angelfire.com/me2/colby.
Sat May 1 02:45:21 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Regarding Pixel32, I still cant manage to make it load or save any type of file. Did anyone here managed to? (yes, I got the latest version)
Sat May 1 05:57:31 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES the Village Idio>	WinterKnight, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO E-MAIL ME! <BR>I only get 1/2 hour e-mail time a day (thanks to my lousy BBS [not the one I own]), so I want to chat. Hmmm... I am am it I making sense or is that... HAAAPY HAAAPY HAAAPY... Howdy Ho! I got my BOUNCE.TO site up. Now for my COME.TO site... If, for some reason, my page looks strange, don't bug me about it. It is a virus page...
Sat May 1 05:58:09 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES - Village Idio>	It was supposed to say "CES the Village Idiot"! Just kidding about the virus page...
Sat May 1 05:58:35 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES-Village Idiot>	NNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Sat May 1 06:08:53 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		jvivian help>	Help Help! any one have turbo pascal or visual basic that I could have for free? I will offer something in return... probably the program I am making...
Sat May 1 06:09:46 1999		jvivian help>	Sorry about the e-mail address...
Sat May 1 09:10:31 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, there are several distributions of free pascal compilers out-there. Just look for those. Try a search in Yahoo, for example. (use the catagory search). I did managed to find one. It was also recommended on a newspaper once. (is that good? oh, never mind.)
Sat May 1 15:26:16 1999		dosman>	jivivian help-- I got a bunch of old software at a auction. The docs/manuals for turbo pascal and visual basic were part of it. I do not have the software. You can have them for the price of shipping...
Sun May 2 08:44:47 1999		blue888>	Oh...
Sun May 2 09:53:34 1999 http://anthillnet.webjump.com		aledin>	Люди! Помогите! Как настроить кодовую страницу в Arachne 1.48b ??? Peoples! Help! How to adjust a code page in Arachne 1.48b ??
Sun May 2 11:20:34 1999		CES>	WinterKnight, what would I do with a Pascal compiler? I am a BASIC man (no intention for that one)!!!
Sun May 2 13:44:23 1999 11		WinterKnight>	I've just found a very intrested GUI that was abandoned by its author.. its open-source, and looks quite intresting. If anyone is intrested I entered the URL under my nickname.
Sun May 2 13:45:01 1999 11		WinterKnight>	<sigh> as usuall, an error accord in the chat. ok, the URL is: http://www.alphalink.com.au/~tjaden/thepaw/index.htm
Sun May 2 16:05:34 1999		CES>	I asked a while ago, WinterKnight, A/S? (keeping the chat spirit alive...)
Sun May 2 16:32:39 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, no comment. :)
Sun May 2 19:31:37 1999 http://hoody.i.am/		Hoody>	OK, Its been a while since I've check this page. I hope you're all well. Lunar: Add these lines to ARACHNE.CFG: AfterPOP3 file:somefile.htm AfterSMTP file:somefile.htm Make these files in the Arachne directory, and after uploading or downloading it will end up with this page shown. You could have a dgi file or smtp: etc to do that.
Sun May 2 19:41:28 1999 11		Hoody>	CES: [Re your slow connectiong] What computer are you using? On my 386DX40, Arachne was REALLY SLOW, sleeping after only 500 bytes received. Pressing Ctrl while clicking on the link speeds it right up. The thing is when I got on my "new" 486SX33 Arachne was a lot lot faster. I think it has faster video, or that its limited to 640x480 [386 running at 800x600]. Us on the Arachne List came to the conclusion that Arachne was too busy updating the screen to worry about what was coming through the internet. Thus it misses the next packet and has to wait 30 seconds for the server to time-out and re-send. Another theory was that high-speed modems was too fast, causing packet collisions or major errors. But the 386 was running at 9600bps; 486 is at 115200 so I don't think so. BTW, look at the i.am place for a really cool URL. eg http://i.am/colby is something you may like. :)
Mon May 3 00:13:31 1999		daybrown>	Between my ISP, noisy phonelines, and possibly corrupted arachne, the latest wrinkle is no more mail. Their server suddenly found msgs it had spaced and yesterday's packet listed 437 msgs, but it aborts on the 300th. Now it is up to 567 or so, and on every retry tries to send out the first 299 which cam thru fine. is there some command that I can ask it for some number of msgs on each connect?
Mon May 3 06:26:19 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Thanks for the info, Hoody. That is okay, WinterKnight. If I told you mine, you would think that I am extremly smart for my age (well, if you met me in person, that is). Whoever had the docs @ manuals for Turbo Pascal-I am JVivian's friend. I think that he would like to see what the software has to offer in the docs. and manuals before he tries to get it (to even see if it is worth it). He will probably be willing to.
Mon May 3 06:31:48 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Anybody got an old computer (or parts) that they don't want? I will be willing to pay you for them, if the price is right. I am trying to build (or at least get) a computer faster than my 386SX/25 w/ 4MB ram.
Mon May 3 06:34:07 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	One final thing: Does anybody know of any bugs in 1.48? 1.47 seems to work MUCH better for some strange reason. Some things that happened in 1.48 are slow text display/erasure, bad scrolling, failure to connect, etc.
Mon May 3 08:43:03 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	C'mon! Somebody has gotta' have some parts for me to take off of their hands! WinterKnight, if no A/S, then what time zone (so I know an estimated time period to find you here)...
Mon May 3 12:17:26 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	I am not here in a given time. I am here whenever I connect to the internet, which can be quite random. So its quite impossible to "catch me" in the Arachne chat. I answer questions I can answer, or ask my own questions, and then move on to other sites without checking - until the next time i'm on. CES, do you also use the BBS for WWW browsing or just e-mail?
Mon May 3 15:04:43 1999 http://hoody.i.am		Hoody>
Mon May 3 15:11:10 1999 http://hoody.i.am		Hoody>	CES: I wouldn't mind some better computers either. I just got a 286 that sometimes forgets about 384 kilobytes of RAM. Windows 3.1 won't start with 640K but runs alright with 1MB. :) I had borrowed a 686 for a few days and had on my desk: 686 486 286 and 2 386's running in the living room. True Multitasking! BTW, stupid thing above.
Mon May 3 15:15:27 1999 http://hoody.i.am		Hoody>	This is really slow tonight. I suspect its Arachne's fault as this ISP was really fast with Netscape 4.51/X11. But then this chat is usually fast with Arachne. I just dunno. BTW, My ASL is 18/m/Australia. :)
Mon May 3 19:01:27 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hoody, my original question - do you have any parts that you want to give away/sell? I like working on computers to use for myself, or just to sell/trade. Does anybody know why FTP downloads don't work? I have to do HTTP downloads with Arachne (because FTP doesn't work), and FTP with NetTamer (because HTTP doesn't work). Is my machine psycho or am I? About your question, WinterKnight, you should know that a BBS can't provide the internet. It is just connected to the Internet E-mail. I use the same number and enter PPP at startup instead of 1 (1 enters the BBS, also I have to dial manually). Because I am borrowing, you may say, my friends' account, I can't use his e-mail. Is this what you wanted to know?
Mon May 3 19:12:15 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hmmm... One final question for now - Arachne keeps on gettting Exception 13 errors from the packet driver (I have QEMM)!!! Whoever told me about the Ctrl-Click thing: Thanks! But I like being detailed and not specific, you should have told me to Ctrl-Click then click again. Now, how come without this method, files download faster than pages (sorry for the extra question)...
Mon May 3 19:13:48 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Even in a frames interface, the frames download slowly, but the pages within the frames are faster than ever? Is this a bug?
Mon May 3 21:00:55 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Just checking in... Does anybody know where I can download the REGISTERED LHX Attack Chopper? It may be an old game, but I have an old DOS-only computer. If anybody has this game/knows where to get it, e-mail me.
Mon May 3 22:14:24 1999		Jake>	Wow! Someone else apart from me and my 6-year-old neighbour plays LHX! CES, have you tried steering a Tow missile (using thr F10 camera) to knock out your own chopper? The distribution I got had an address for the archivist, but my mail was bounced back, so I don't know about the registered version. LHX has great sound for the card-less. Anyone have PAW-Gold? Seems it's now hard to find in the bargain bins in the US.
Mon May 3 22:19:13 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Jake, yes I have. That is one of the most fun things to do - watch me blow myself up. Well, I do have a sound card, but I just like the game. I lost it when I had the AntiCMOS.A virus (now contained on 1 floppy disk - I can give it to people whom I don't like), and it destroyed my partition table. Nothing was recovered. I want to tell you a hint -- back up your config. file. If you die, restore it, and you have the score that you had the last time you backed it up. Well, back to business - do you think that you can e-mail it to me?
Mon May 3 22:20:13 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Did I miss you by only 5 minutes, JAKE? Oh, no...
Mon May 3 22:21:38 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	I will check back at 22:35 (the time on the side) to see if you are here. Just meet me here if you see this message.
Mon May 3 22:36:56 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hey, Jake, are you going to be here?
Mon May 3 22:49:07 1999		CES>	Jake, I'll meet you at 3:15 sharp.
Mon May 3 23:23:30 1999		sexy>	hello
Mon May 3 23:24:48 1999		sexy>	ces whats up
Mon May 3 23:26:08 1999		sexy>	forget yall then i can find somebody better.
Tue May 4 00:13:24 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Is anybody here?
Tue May 4 00:14:44 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Please respond at any time, anybody (specifically [which I don't like to use], Jake.
Tue May 4 01:07:26 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Somebody please respond. I am getting tired of waiting...
Tue May 4 01:55:20 1999		Jake>	Yo, CES. Is it the LHX demo you need as well? It's close to 1 a.m. here and I'm off to the sack after looking over Infohiway.com's JavaScript stuff. I'll check back here between 19:00 and 02:00 Arachne-time incase you've not mailed me to clarify -- I have LHX demo NOT registered. Anybody else want it? It fits easily on a floppy, and will play off it too.
Tue May 4 02:58:52 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Sorry about the time thing. I went by PST. Well, I am looking for the REGISTERED version. I like flying not only the LHX, but I also like the Osprey (because it converts into an airplane and travels at high speeds). If my download is unsuccessful, I will let you know.
Tue May 4 03:06:33 1999		Black Skittle>	Hey. I'm wondering Why I can't get Arachne to connect to any web pages except for my providers.
Tue May 4 03:42:40 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Black Skittle, have you entered your DNS's? That may be the problem...
Tue May 4 04:06:14 1999		test>	test
Tue May 4 04:34:57 1999		Jack>	Are there any chat areas that work with Arachne? Thanks in advance.
Tue May 4 04:48:09 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Jack, WinterKnight is helping me with the same problem. E-mail him.
Tue May 4 08:09:06 1999		Jake>	CES, my mail to your ces@pods.pacifier.com address was bounced back. I did a "Reply to" so it's not a typo on my part. Have you an alternative address?
Tue May 4 09:35:16 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	!!!гбет ймщ йесйрд !нмелм немщ Eh. :) For those of you without the hebrew support (I guess 99
Tue May 4 09:36:01 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	.. what I tried to say, was that I did an experiment in hebrew support in arachne. It worked! :)
Tue May 4 11:28:05 1999		tmptmp>	CES, I have an IBM Thinkpad 355 without an electric cord connector, with a bad keyboard, a lcd that would work if the connection from the board to it could be replace (that little 5 dollar part is not sold anywhere, I have looked. And no battery. Everything else is good, the board, the internal modem, the disk drive, the hard drive, If any of this interests you let me know. I will probably have an external 28k usrobotics modem available too. tmptmp
Tue May 4 15:59:35 1999 http://hoody.i.am		Hoody>	Black Skittle: Your ISP may require you to enter proxy servers. Unfortuneatley, some proxy servers don't work properly with Arachne [eg authenticating ones]. When you use Netscape/IE, do you type your password after or before you dial to the internet? If its after [or both], you probably have a crappy server. There's no easy way around it. If its a 'normal' proxy server [or want to try this anyway], go into the options [press O, look down the list and click on the second one IIRC - I'll check. Then try connecting again. HTH.
Tue May 4 16:05:22 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	Sorry, its the first option in the O screen.
Tue May 4 16:08:53 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	CES: What I was saying was I wouldn't mind a better computer as well. Except I'm a poor student and carnt afford anything. AND my parents won't let me be a delivery driver for Dominoes. [Well, I dont really want to anyway ;-)]. [ie the plea was if you had too many stuff, give me some <GRIN>]
Tue May 4 16:12:53 1999 2> and the message in <TD ROWSPAN=2> so that if the URL and the name are long, there is room left for the message.		Hoody>	Can I suggest a small difference to the HTML of this page, if Robin happens to be listening? Have the URL in a <TD COLSPAN=2> and the message in <TD ROWSPAN=2> so that if the URL and the name are long, there is room left for the message.
Tue May 4 16:14:16 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	Wow! what happened there?
Tue May 4 17:16:53 1999		Black>	Hello. I need help with Arachne.
Tue May 4 17:20:11 1999		Black>	Hoody, When I had windows <cry> I used TCPMAN and dialed up manually Then I entered PPP then my login name and password. I'm using Pacifier Internet Service by the way. But I never had to use proxies at all.
Tue May 4 20:40:34 1999		Otaccon>	hello from Chile
Tue May 4 20:53:32 1999		Otaccon>	i need use arachne with pc-nfs net software and i dont have acces to the boot disk...can anybody help me???
Tue May 4 21:41:49 1999		Allen>	I,m trying to connect to a ppp internet accout and I get as far as my ISP server giving me a dynamic address # and then after a few minutes a message appears that says "No Carrier Detected" can anyone help me?
Tue May 4 21:47:52 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Whoa! Slow Down everyone! tmptmp, I am very interested (not only do I need a portable computer, I need a faster modem). Let me know your prices, if any. Hoody, sorry about that. I realized that, but I was wondering if you had anything anyway. Jake, I have another e-mail address, which takes a long time to check (HotMail on a 14.4K modem), but it will work. It is CESchoolcraft@Hotmail.com.
Tue May 4 21:49:26 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Black, where do you live? We may use the same Pacifier!!! (get it?) I am saying this because I also use Pacifier. If you happen to live in the SW Washington / NW Oregon area, then we are using the same one.
Tue May 4 21:52:22 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	NNOOOOO!!! Jake, don't use the hotmail address! Use CES.MAN@PODS.PACIFIER.COM. You actually may have had a spelling problem, or I may have too much mail in my inbox and Pacifier is shutting it down (this one has NO mail in the box).
Tue May 4 22:03:01 1999		Jake>	CES - I'll try your last-given address. The non-delivered mail was an auto-reply, so not a typo on my part. Although LHX is a measly 200KB I'll send a test-mail first, hopefully before 20:30 GMT.
Tue May 4 22:12:09 1999		Jake>	Tmptmp/CES: A couple of winters ago out cycling I came across an IBM mains adaptor. Roadkill!! (Sob, sob for the poor yuppie). Maybe it would be above its 2nd-hand value to mail to the States. My old Compaq needs its dud battery in place to work off the mains. Hiss, boo, it's got a fast(ish) UART on the PS/2 but not on the serial port. Anybody know anything about the Compaq parallel port modem?
Tue May 4 23:59:02 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Nope. I've got no idea about the modem. Sorry. My friend has a Compaq, but it is on COM2 instead (internal).
Wed May 5 00:14:27 1999		Jake>	CES - there was a typo this time: pasting in your address I didn't notice the omission of the final letter. Trying again...
Wed May 5 00:28:59 1999		CES>	If none of this works, you will have to e-mail my friend, Jake. But, if that is what we have to do...
Wed May 5 00:44:15 1999		Jake>	keep checking your mail. I'll check mine and look back here at 01:00
Wed May 5 01:24:57 1999		Jake>	Well folks, one of CES' multiple personalities should soon be playing with his chopper.
Wed May 5 02:01:37 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Not really, Jake. It didn't work. Check your e-mail and get back to me.
Wed May 5 02:04:24 1999		AJK>	hello?
Wed May 5 02:53:12 1999		AJK>	hello?
Wed May 5 03:35:07 1999		Jake>	Hello AJK - excuse me, but the saga continues... CES, my mail to you was once more bounced -- and we thought you Americanos were lucky in having unmetered access... It's time you sorted out your ISP. Anyway, as requested, LHX is available for download from http://www.cycenginst.free-online.co.uk/lhx.htm Best of luck, old bean. When did you get your original copy? Is it a well known game? (Apologies to the rest of you for straying from the serious purposes of this page). I like Michael's recycling ethos proposed on Arachne's homepage. Magazines seem only interested in delivering readers to advertisers. The BBC is running a "Webwise" campaign, and a magazine editor admitted that his kids got on fine, surfing with a 6-year-old PC.
Wed May 5 03:43:38 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	OLD BEAN?!?!?!? I am 13 years old!!! I got my original copy in 1997 from my grandpa!!! Just don't call me old bean. Thanks for the info.
Wed May 5 03:52:03 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Jake, I just downloaded the file (look at the time difference (FAST for my modem - good site!). I like how you dedicated the page to me (and I liked the backround). The problem is my BBS - their ZModem download timings and executions are off, so I can't download files more than 15K reliably.
Wed May 5 04:02:24 1999 http://come.to/t2w		jvivian1>	Hey colby are you on right now???
Wed May 5 04:10:48 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Now I am...
Wed May 5 04:17:58 1999		jvivian>	Hey colby
Wed May 5 04:20:03 1999		jvivian>	damitt answer colby
Wed May 5 04:21:32 1999		jvivian>	CES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed May 5 04:21:36 1999		CES>	Hello? Jacob? Where are you? You know that guy with VB? He only had manuals and docs. No software. But, he would send them to you for free - less shipping...
Wed May 5 04:21:49 1999		jvivian>	Aswer Damitt
Wed May 5 04:22:30 1999		jvivian>	COOL Can I download it
Wed May 5 04:22:54 1999		jvivian>	COlby WHat are you connected at
Wed May 5 04:23:37 1999		jvivian>	Colby I need to tell you something can you tell me how to search on how to fix My PDA
Wed May 5 04:24:20 1999		jvivian>	Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed May 5 04:25:44 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	No, Jacob, you cannot download. It is hard copy. Also, a guy will send me a faster modem and an IBM ThinkPad for super-cheap. Did you get the e-mail with Pager?
Wed May 5 04:25:45 1999		jvivian>	Hey colby I'm getting very board
Wed May 5 04:26:23 1999		jvivian>	Hey wait How much is he selling the think pad For?????
Wed May 5 04:28:01 1999		jvivian>	What is Taking you so long to Send
Wed May 5 04:29:14 1999		CES>	Jacob, just hit the Refresh button. Do you want to do a direct chat?
Wed May 5 04:29:25 1999		jvivian>	Is htere any way we can jerry rig my pda I will give $13.00 if you can do it Degraaff the englash teacher said I could use it in her class
Wed May 5 04:29:42 1999		jvivian>	Yes
Wed May 5 04:30:02 1999		CES>	Because this modem likes to stall.
Wed May 5 04:31:08 1999		jvivian>	Colby where do you want to do a direct chat and Is there any way we can jerry rig my pda I will give $13.00 if you can do it Degraaff the englash teacher said I could use it in her class --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wed May 5 04:31:14 1999		CES>	Disconnect. Call in 2 minutes.
Wed May 5 04:31:24 1999		jvivian>	Colby where do you want to do a direct chat and Is there any way we can jerry rig my pda I will give $13.00 if you can do it Degraaff the englash teacher said I could use it in her class --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wed May 5 04:31:37 1999		jvivian>	Colby where do you want to do a direct chat and Is there any way we can jerry rig my pda I will give $13.00 if you can do it Degraaff the englash teacher said I could use it in her class --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wed May 5 05:27:56 1999		wesslee>	Howdy
Wed May 5 05:28:20 1999		wesslee>	where everybody at???
Wed May 5 05:28:27 1999		Campbell>	whatty?...I'm gonna go to beddy.
Wed May 5 05:29:22 1999		wesslee>	NO! NO! NO!
Wed May 5 05:29:29 1999		voidead>	whats shaking
Wed May 5 05:29:46 1999		wesslee>	YO!
Wed May 5 05:29:47 1999		Campbell>	OH MY...he made it!!!!!!!!!
Wed May 5 05:30:01 1999		wesslee>	YES!!!
Wed May 5 05:30:16 1999		wesslee>	Everybody can chat!
Wed May 5 05:30:22 1999		voidead>	tell her got rock for both o you
Wed May 5 05:30:23 1999		Campbell>	what kinda rock?
Wed May 5 05:30:27 1999		wesslee>	Thank Arachne!
Wed May 5 05:30:41 1999		Campbell>	cammy loves wocks.....
Wed May 5 05:30:47 1999		voidead>	can i ditch these IM's
Wed May 5 05:30:54 1999		wesslee>	whaddup dawg!!
Wed May 5 05:31:06 1999		wesslee>	yep
Wed May 5 05:31:13 1999		voidead>	not o mucho
Wed May 5 05:31:27 1999		Campbell>	cammy wants wocks....*user makes adorable pouty face*
Wed May 5 05:31:30 1999		voidead>	what you doing
Wed May 5 05:31:40 1999		wesslee>	so...wat is da woid?
Wed May 5 05:31:54 1999		voidead>	ya ya got wats o wocks
Wed May 5 05:32:08 1999		voidead>	woid on what
Wed May 5 05:32:18 1999		Campbell>	what tind of wocks?
Wed May 5 05:32:27 1999		voidead>	i am a kite
Wed May 5 05:32:39 1999		voidead>	cool ones
Wed May 5 05:32:57 1999		Campbell>	checky outy our new formy wormy on the werkie page
Wed May 5 05:32:58 1999		voidead>	just wait
Wed May 5 05:33:00 1999		wesslee>	watch out for dat litnen...
Wed May 5 05:33:10 1999		voidead>	already did
Wed May 5 05:33:29 1999		voidead>	it alright
Wed May 5 05:33:33 1999		wesslee>	we been working the the site...getting ready to add forums and other stuff...
Wed May 5 05:33:43 1999		voidead>	not rainin yet
Wed May 5 05:33:54 1999		Campbell>	cammy go beddy bye
Wed May 5 05:33:55 1999		voidead>	cool
Wed May 5 05:34:11 1999		voidead>	to the forums
Wed May 5 05:34:27 1999		voidead>	good night cam
Wed May 5 05:34:31 1999		Campbell>	huggy wuggy...voidy woidy
Wed May 5 05:34:41 1999		wesslee>	ok...cammy is going away...less go back to IM...k?
Wed May 5 05:34:46 1999		voidead>	have distorted dreams --i mean pleasant
Wed May 5 06:23:16 1999		westleyd>	time check
Wed May 5 06:24:45 1999		westleyd>	Is anyone still here?
Wed May 5 07:46:04 1999		CES>	What the hell...
Wed May 5 08:13:14 1999 http://bounce.to/colbys		CES>	Well, I have a problem now - my 4X CD-ROM drive that I am borrowing until the city pays me the 40X for fixing a computer, well, anyway... I have a single-IDE machine, and the CDROM drive just won't work. I got it to work before and I followed the same steps, but it still isn't working. Can anybody offer any suggestions? QUICKLY?
Wed May 5 10:38:43 1999		Jake>	CES: if you missed the message, you can download LHX-demo (228KB) from http://www.cycenginst.free-online.co.uk/lhx.htm I've just checked back 49 messages to get past our new visitors - couldn't get back to where I left off last time. This page REALLY needs the option of refreshing in time units (1 hour, 2 hours, 3, 6, 12 hours, 1 day, 1.5 days, 2 days, 4 days, 1 week etc.)
Wed May 5 11:34:28 1999		Lunar>	I'm running Arachne 1.47, cant go back more than 11 messages. Does 1.48 work better?
Wed May 5 15:06:13 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	Jake: indeed Lunar: Yes. ;) Click on the button where it says Show 11 messages and choose a different number.
Wed May 5 15:39:09 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	A scarey thing just happened. I clicked on the Refresh button and went to microsoft.com!! [Well, I was just using Hotmail and stopped it] I didn't think Arachne had a thing for M$ tho! :-P
Wed May 5 16:16:03 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	And Jake, I wanted to tell you thanks. At least SOMEBODY dedicated a page to me...
Wed May 5 16:17:27 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	If anybody is tired of calling me CES, my real name is Colby Schoolcraft.
Wed May 5 16:35:12 1999		Lunar>	Hoody: It don't work. I've tried.
Wed May 5 17:07:24 1999		Black Skittle>	Anyone here.
Wed May 5 17:13:29 1999		Black Skittle>	I live in SW Washington CES.
Wed May 5 17:13:54 1999		Black Skittle>	So Why can't I get My Arachne to work with Pacifier when it will work for you?
Wed May 5 17:15:14 1999		Black Skittle>	It keeps saying that it connects to the server on port 80 but then that the server denies me or No DNS Address I think it's the server denying me because it asks the DNS Server for the address finds it connects to it then the connection is terminated. Could this be because it's trying to connect to Port 80 and these servers don't allow it? I can access Pacifier's Home Page but that's it.
Wed May 5 19:33:34 1999		Jake>	CES: Glad the download appears to have worked for you. The mail hassles were a pig. Hope you are as wealthy and glamorous as the TV Colbies...
Wed May 5 23:06:25 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Lunar.. maybe there is a bug in 1.47. Well, there ARE bugs in 1.47, and bugs in 1.48. However some bugs were fixed from 1.47 to 1.48 so that could be the problem. :) Can you even pull down the "show nn messages" menu, or is the input just being ignored?
Thu May 6 01:28:27 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	I may be getting the registered version of LHX soon, Jake. Do you want it?
Thu May 6 01:52:26 1999		james>	hi people,i have left DOS for linux.its running great on my 486.i just installed netscape 4.08 on it.Thats what i am using right now.I love it.
Thu May 6 01:58:18 1999		Notable>	xChaos Need some help! I am installing Arachne on my Mom IBM P/S2 486. it is working very slowly. It seems to be getting 500byte packets. The IP is sending 1500bytes. what am I doing wrong?
Thu May 6 02:12:24 1999		Lunar>	WinterKnight: I can get clear down to "show all messages, but still only see 11 when I scroll up. I saw some complaining about this a couple of months ago also.
Thu May 6 02:14:52 1999		Lunar>	Just tried 19 and 23, still only 11.
Thu May 6 02:26:51 1999		Jake>	Thanx CES, yes. Keep 'em peeled for PAW-Gold!
Thu May 6 04:58:53 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Gotcha', Jake. Black Skittle, how fast is your modem and are you using external packet drivers? There have been many problems with my system configuration, but after I got my 14.4 from my friend, I was able to config. okay. Send me ARACHNE.CFG with e-mail to the address specified by clicking on my name.
Thu May 6 05:00:52 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Black Skittle, what city do you live in? If you live close enough, we can have real-time chat (Modem to Modem) with eachother, pinpointing problems as we go (although you would have to try a solution, call back, tell me how it worked, etc.). It would be a lot simpler and faster than this, and you could transfer ARACHNE.CFG instead of sending it in e-mail.
Thu May 6 05:02:16 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Jake - did you want Red Baron? I can buy it from Fred Meyer!!! I would have to have a good reason, though...
Thu May 6 05:42:19 1999		Black>	CES>> I live in Vancouver, My Area code is 360. What city do you live in?
Thu May 6 05:42:52 1999		Black>	Blah. 40 minutes late. What time does this Chat go on anyhow.
Thu May 6 05:44:18 1999		Black>	Oh and I'm using a 486 SX with 28.8 Modem and external packet drivers I have tried using epppd which is included with Arachne and PPPD which isn't included. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Thu May 6 06:02:55 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Well, I live in Longview. If you wish to pay the LD charges and you have Win95, we can get this chat going. Let me know.
Thu May 6 06:13:36 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	So, what is going on here?
Thu May 6 06:15:11 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Just to summarize... 1) I can get Red Baron for Jake. 2) Black Skittle and I may have a direct modem connection. 3) I need somebody to e-mail me.
Thu May 6 06:21:00 1999		Black>	Hi
Thu May 6 06:21:23 1999		Black>	Ya there CES?
Thu May 6 06:36:40 1999		CES>	I think so.
Thu May 6 06:40:36 1999		CES>	My drunk father wanted to use the phone.
Thu May 6 06:53:57 1999		CES>	WinterKnight! HELP! jpIRC just won't work! Every time I install it, it says it doesn't work! What is the problem? My head or my psycho CoMPUteR?
Thu May 6 16:46:59 1999		Black>	Blah. I'm using jpIRC hehe. It only woks with PPPD And you also have to have ntcpdrv.zip which you can get from ftp.trumpet.com/ blah blah blah somewhere in there. hehe
Thu May 6 16:49:59 1999		Black>	So you have to make a connection with your ISP then run pppd like this. (For me My modem is Com 2 and my speed is 28.8 so i put 38400) pppd com2 38400 and after that it'll either say "PPP Link is down, Packer driver not loaded" or "Packet handler on vector 60x" something or other. if you get the vector one it means your good to go and then you have to run ntcpdrv.exe by simply type ntcpdrv and it should run and display your IP address to you. (The one you got when you connected to ppp on pacifier.) and then run jpirc and you should be good to go.
Thu May 6 22:28:14 1999		Jake>	CES: thanx, but you've got the wrong end of the stick. I already have Red Baron.
Thu May 6 23:58:23 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	That is not my problem, Black. Arachne thinks that jpIRC isn't installed! Whenever I go to an IRC site, Arachne says that the APM wasn't installed. <BR> <BR>And, Jake, I didn't know that. I have to go to the store when I get my scientific calculator for school, and I will check for PAW-Gold.
Fri May 7 00:00:49 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Black Skittle, I asked you: DO YOU WANT TO DO A DIRECT CHAT? That is where you call my house with your modem, and we connect directly to eachother.
Fri May 7 00:01:49 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	Also, I asked: CAN ANYBODY HELP ME WITH MY CD-ROM TROUBLES? If not, please say NO, so I know people are paying attention to me.
Fri May 7 05:38:42 1999 11		WinterKnight>	CES, hold it. What do you mean by "Arachne says that the APM is not installed", when you go to an IRC site? Exactly, how do you try to run jpIRC? If you tried to type the server address in the URL field, dont. Go to Desktop, Your applications, And then click on IRC or jpIRC. You have to run it manualy. Automatic launch of an IRC client will only be implemented once someone will agree to work on the IRC-Client autoconfigure, or a better client will be found.
Fri May 7 08:41:18 1999		CES>	Thanx for the info, WinterKnight (that is the first time i've spelled it that way!) - but why is it empty everywhere? I NEED SOMEONE TO CHAT WITH!
Fri May 7 08:45:24 1999		Black>	Sorry CES I can't afford the LD Charges.
Fri May 7 08:45:40 1999		Black>	Hrmm Ya There CES? Only like 4 minutes.
Fri May 7 08:45:57 1999		Black>	Oh by the way. what is Bess?
Fri May 7 08:48:28 1999		Black>	Blah. Okay then.
Fri May 7 09:02:35 1999		tmptmp>	CES, The CD rom trouble. Did you upgrade or add files to Windows just before it started. There is one version of Windows that does not recongize the CD Rom. I ran into it last year when I was upgrading a neighbor's computer - it was maddening because I could not figure out what was going on. It took weeks of searching to find out what happened. --tmptmp
Fri May 7 11:31:56 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	What do you mean "why is it black everywhere?" If you mean that you managed to run jpIRC, then it means that you didnt joined a channel. You should have read the instructions I e-mailed to you. Try the following command once you connect: /join #chatzone
Fri May 7 14:36:28 1999 11		Catfish>	Hi peoples, long time no post. CES: try this URL for help on IRC <---- Over there.
Fri May 7 14:37:38 1999 11		Catfish>	frig that 11, i've always had it and always will!!!!!!!!! http://www.irchelp.org/ is the URL that was gobbled by Mr 11 over there.
Fri May 7 16:28:35 1999		Black>	Hhaha. Finally got it to work. the problem was I'm using a friends Internet account and they're Mom put Bess on it so I had to set up the proxy for Bess. But I can get rid of bess for an hour. weeha.
Fri May 7 17:09:34 1999		sonu>	i have 286 PC with coprocessor 287... <BR>will arachne work on this equipment quick??? <BR>sonu
Sat May 8 00:16:27 1999 http://bounce.to/colby		CES>	tmptmp, I don't have Windows. Remember? I am running a DOS-only machine (so I am forced to use Arachne)!!!!! The problem is with the IDE - the driver can't find the CDROM drive, even though CMOS does (the light flashes On and Off at startup). Remember that I have a 386, I can't configure the drive to work in CMOS.
Sat May 8 01:05:24 1999		tmptmp>	CES, would you like MsDos 6.2. I will mail it to you if you do. No $. --tmptmp
Sat May 8 01:06:53 1999		tmptmp>	CES, I have a new e-mail address. <----
Sat May 8 01:30:55 1999		CES>	Sure! I really need to downgrade from 7.1 before I mess something up. Also, I need DriveSpace.
Sat May 8 01:31:57 1999		CES>	(I know, tmptmp, 7.1 comes with 95b. E-mail me and I will tell you all about it.)
Sat May 8 04:33:00 1999 http://accessmasters.com/dos.htm		Rickee>	Sonu - Arachne will work on a 286, but VERY slowly. I tried it recently on one and gave up. Even without loading graphics, you wait forever for pages to load. You really need a 386 for best results, but it's worth a shot. Download it and try.
Sat May 8 05:45:51 1999		tmptmp>	Colby, Dos6.22 is ready. I'm also sending a self-loading Dos Cd driver. Don't know if it will run on your system because its an Ibm driver but I'll send it anyway. Where should I send everything. --tmptmp
Sat May 8 08:56:39 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	As soon as you wish! E-mail me and I will let you know my address.
Sat May 8 14:46:33 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody.Linux>	Catfish: What browser you using? MSIE don't like this chat. Arachne has a few problems sometimes with me. CES and Black: You *DONT* need W9x to direct-dial-chat!! Just use a DOS comm prog like Procomm, Telix, Bananacom, etc. They're way better than HyperTerminal IMHO. This chat doesn't work with the Konquest (KFM) browser, so I'm using NS under the KDE.
Sat May 8 17:11:01 1999		ghdfg>	iol
Sat May 8 17:12:29 1999		ghdfg>	is it possible to set up your isp or your dns # as a proxy?
Sat May 8 17:22:29 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody.Linux>	what do you mean? Does your ISP give you a proxy, like proxy.isp.com? If they Do, use that.
Sat May 8 18:31:35 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hoody, I never said that we needed Windows!!!
Sat May 8 22:01:01 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	I liked Terminat the most. Anyone tried version 5? I had 4.
Sat May 8 22:03:39 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Whenever I want to copy a file from a friend, they keep wanting to e-mail it. And when I mention direct connection, they look at me like I fell from outer-space. Either they claim its "old fashioned", or they just dont know what i'm talking about it.. hm. guess that using file-transfer at their modem optimum speed in direct connection isnt as "cool" as sending in 2-3k per second via E-Mail.
Sun May 9 02:11:33 1999		CES>	True for me too, WinterKnight. Your mICQ download on your webpage downloads a ZIP that doesn't work. I just wanted you to know that.
Sun May 9 05:12:01 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	CES: : Well, I live in Longview. If you wish to pay : the LD charges and you have Win95, we can get : this chat going. Let me know. Thats where you said you needed windows.
Sun May 9 05:13:22 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	I just downloaded all the messages, over half a meg! Is there other chat channels here, other than the /mchat one? What is that one for?
Sun May 9 11:49:09 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	I didn't say I needed Windows - I could just tell Black Skittle how to set it up very easy with Windows 95.
Sun May 9 21:46:30 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, I have checked, and the download of DOS-mICQ in the DSDP is correct. Please check your browser.
Sun May 9 21:47:17 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Hoody, mchat was an attempt to make a multi-channel version for this place. Unfortunatly it doesnt seem to go anywhere.
Sun May 9 21:50:51 1999 11		WinterKnight>	Arachne seems to have a major problem with frames. Here is an example for it: http://www.cityindex.co.il/ Try to access this URL with Arachne. (its in hebrew, but this doesnt matter for the test.) Arachne will most probebly start doing trouble due to the frames. Any idea what causes this? I hate to admit it, but DR-WebSpyder's frame handling is much better. (this site was tested with 1.48. If you tried to access that URL with 1.50b and it displayed ok, please tell me so.)
Mon May 10 03:30:45 1999		xchaos>	I don't know what's wrong with http://www.cityindex.co.il/ - it loads ok in my latest 1.50. I don't understand a sinle word - maybe the content is some error message ;)
Mon May 10 09:47:36 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	WinterKnight - Have you tried extracting the archive? And my browser is Arachne! Argh!
Mon May 10 10:17:07 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Hm.. better install the 1.50 APM and see for myself. :) But even if this is fixed (which is great), I would rather wait for the officially "stable" version before changing... I guess i'll have to "suffer" abit longer. :)
Mon May 10 10:19:03 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, I have tested the site with Netscape Navigator 3.04 for Win32, and it went fine. I received the file. I'll try to download it using Arachne. (barly using Arachne since my modem burned. ISDN support for DOS is awful.. so I need to use someone's computer to use Arachne.:P
Mon May 10 13:00:05 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	xChaos, I tried now with 1.50b.. much better, but there is still a problem - the left frame do not display if the Arachne button bar is on the side. You must use full-screen or move the bar to the top to see that frame.
Mon May 10 16:03:49 1999		Stef.>	is it possible, that this "spam delete" option in 1.5a isn't working at all? as told in the status bar i click right on the messages and press delete (i think there is only one delete key on the keyboard), but nothing is happening, the messages remain where there are. another bug? or my fault??
Mon May 10 20:15:17 1999		tmptmp>	CES, the cdrom player I sent along with the msdos is for a 4x player so it may work. The package went in the mail Sat. eve so it most likely left the post office this morning.
Mon May 10 21:32:02 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Stef, you're right. That delete option is not working in my copy, either.
Mon May 10 22:10:05 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	WinterKnight, I know what the problem is - the extension of the file is ZIP, but it is truly an ARJ file! So, there were no downloading problems! xChaos, are you going to have a fix with FTP stuff? I download via FTP, and it always says 1023 bytes, along with strange characters. But, when surfing FTP, everything shows up fine. I dare not to download, as something may go wrong. Instead, I use NetTamer for (and only for) my FTP work. Will my downloads be just fine?
Mon May 10 22:51:43 1999		xchaos@arachne.cz>	The FTP bug was fixed few version ago...
Mon May 10 22:53:38 1999		xChaos>	I just tried with ftp.cdrom.com - FTP downloads work..
Tue May 11 01:38:21 1999		tmptmp>	CES, I think DOS 6.22 will make some of the problems you are running into, running DOS 7.? without Windows, go away. It will interesting to see. --tmptmp
Tue May 11 02:17:27 1999		Pablo>	MS-DOS is wonder !
Tue May 11 03:00:04 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	tmptmp, I am using a 4X drive. So, it may work.
Tue May 11 03:02:40 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Another note, tmptmp: currently, I am not running into any problems. I have an excellent memory setup (11K conventional used, about 207K high with only 57K used, and the rest of my memory shared XMS/EMS - 300K (about) used. This is all possible with QEMM.
Tue May 11 04:16:49 1999 11		CES>	Tmptmp, I need DOS 6.22 for stability purposes. I am having another problem - I did another install of 1.49. Now, I am having typing problems - it takes about a second to delete 4 characters on the URL space. What is the problem here?
Tue May 11 08:39:35 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Is there a better *working* IRC client with mouse support for DOS? And a reliable one? jpIRC keeps on messing up on me, and I want to be able to navigate with a mouse...
Tue May 11 14:29:43 1999 http://www.st.fmph.uniba.sk/~8ondraska/		aceman>	ces: the problem with 1.49 you mention is caused by the overlays, because you don't have memory to load them. Try the static version.
Tue May 11 14:41:55 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, 2 things: 1)I checked the DSDP again. Its a real ZIP file (I looked inside it), and I had no problem downloading it. With arachne. 2)There is no known IRC client for DOS with GUI. However, it does exist as a wish in the DSDP wishlist. Who knows.. maybe one of these days a bored programmer will make a mIRC like IRC client for DOS? (hint hint). You can use the IRC client from trumpt which I heard has a basic GUI, however I never managed to run it.
Tue May 11 14:43:21 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, use 1.50b. Its better then 1.49.
Tue May 11 16:01:33 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	Is v1.50 of any benefit for my 640x480-16 colour screen? I know a lot of the fetures need 256 colour. :-(
Tue May 11 16:22:24 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hmmm... I've been using 1.47 because I have had no problems. I made a complete copy, then tried the upgrading. This took a while, but I guess I can do it again... aceman, I had this problem temporarily in 1.44, too. I changed something or something and it fixed...
Tue May 11 18:13:17 1999		tmptmp>
Tue May 11 18:15:37 1999		tmptmp>	Spam works fine with my setup - I have to hit 'r' after I use span for the screen to show it.
Tue May 11 18:41:29 1999		martha>	Dear whoever, a friend of mine was charged for approx. $50 for some service provided by Arachne. Could you please provide me with any help of how i could check for what the charge is for? for your information: it was charged to his American Express account Name: Samart Akara-Amorntham date charged: April 9,1999 Ref. no. W6402T 00 2 please check! thanks
Tue May 11 19:16:23 1999 http://pagina.de/pelayosoft		pelayo>	hi?
Tue May 11 19:48:56 1999		tmptmp>	CES, it can also be because there are too many COMMAND's or EPPPD's loaded. Running under Dos alone, there should be only one COMMAND and one EPPPD. I can e-mail you a little DOS program called 'mapmem' that will let you check this. Also if you look at "free" memmory when Arachne is running - if its lower than usual that means there are too many COMMANDS or EPPPD's loaded. --tmptmp
Tue May 11 20:10:05 1999 http://www.thethreshold.net/~butane/		[Butane]>	test
Tue May 11 20:12:38 1999 http://www.thethreshold.net/~butane/		[Butane]>	Oops, sorry bout that last msg.. umm.. Anyone here know if it's possible to run Arachne through Window's Dial-Up connection? I tried a lot of things, editing the WATTCP.CFG file and all.. Still, no luck :-/
Tue May 11 20:24:34 1999 http://www.thethreshold.net/~butane/		[Butane]>	I don't really like the PPP dialer Arachne comes with. Stuff like ICQ, IRC won't work with it (lack of Winsock I guess)
Tue May 11 22:42:55 1999		tmptmp>	Butane, have you downloaded irc.apm and then installed it via Arachne utility. If you have done that you then have to launch it via irc.oops which you find in the desktop menu. If you do all that it should work find with ppp dailer that comes with Arachne. --tmptmp
Tue May 11 23:56:24 1999		CES>	Arachne doesn't work with WinSock, [Butane]. It says it somewhere...
Wed May 12 00:19:49 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	[Butane], Arachne will not work with Windows dialup software. Also windows winsock software will not work with Arachne. Windows and DOS TCP/IP stacks are using 2 very diffrant ways to work, and Arachne is (obviously!) not a Windows application. Arachne was also designed for DOS computers, not Windows. Regarding the applications you mentioned, you can get a DOS IRC client and a DOS ICQ port (not from Mirabilis) that will allow you to access these services. I heard once of a connector from UKA_PPP that could connect DOS applications via the Windows Dial-Up, but I couldnt find it. So until then, DOS PPP stacks and Windows dial-ups are two completly diffrant and separeted universes.
Wed May 12 09:09:53 1999		Rad>	[WinterKnight] excause me, but can you halp me where can I get the DOS ICQ port? I am new Arachne / Linux user.
Wed May 12 09:12:31 1999 11		CES>	Rad, Go To WINTERKNIGHT's website! Click on the URL below the time!
Wed May 12 09:16:17 1999		Rad>	CES, Thank you very much! How are you?
Wed May 12 09:26:29 1999		Rad>	CES, Thanks I am also fine, I am at work in Prague, we have 9:20 am, so I do this. From where are you in States? Do you run ARACHNE? Do you believe God?
Wed May 12 12:06:04 1999		BecK>	Is anybody interesting in web-sex-bussiness ? I got great stuff tu publish it but i am looking for co-investors. Yoop ..
Wed May 12 13:10:44 1999		ahoj>	ty PRASAAKU
Wed May 12 16:36:49 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	BecK, I believe that you have accessed the wrong chat/webboard service.
Wed May 12 16:39:39 1999 11		WinterKnight>	Rad, you can get the ICQ port either from the DOS-mICQ site at: http://www.members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/ or from my site, as stated in the URL bellow the date of my message. As a new user I believe you should be aware, however, for a few facts about this ICQ: 1)Mirabilis did NOT created this program. Its a port from a clone that was made for Linux. 2)As a typical (previously) Linux based program, its using text commands. :) Read the readme.txt and use the command: help once you run it for the first time.. (always helping!). 3)Most important of all, have fun! :)
Wed May 12 20:03:38 1999		tmptmp>	Rad, list of irc's at: http://www.irchelp.org/network/servers Arachne's irc can log onto any irc - it is text log on, not graphic, but very easy to use. And there is always '/help' once on which will give you all the commands. --tmptmp
Wed May 12 20:07:30 1999		tmptmp>	Rad... network in above address is networks with an 's'
Wed May 12 20:09:45 1999 11		tmptmp>	Just trying the URL: over <....... with url to irchelp.org
Wed May 12 20:11:32 1999		tmptmp>	Hmmm... that did not work, I'll noodle around for a while to understand why. --tmptmp
Wed May 12 23:20:32 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	tmptmp, Robin didnt fixed several problems in the chat.. this is one of them. :)
Thu May 13 00:01:39 1999 11		tmptmp>	WinterKnight, then "URL:" will accept any http:// site when fixed, or will it have to be a site belonging to writer? --tmptmp
Thu May 13 00:21:11 1999 11		WinterKnight>	It doesnt matter "who owns the site". What should matter is that the URL field will accept the URL.. I dont know, I didnt make this Chat, but from other webboards that i've seen the URL field can be used for "related URL" field, that is for URLs that are related to the message. Use it as you wish, but the number "11" shouldnt appear instead of the URL you typed, obviously.. :)
Thu May 13 00:31:29 1999 11		CES>	Rad, from where have you heard that I live in the US? Why are you asking me these questions? E-mail me... By the way, I use Arachne. Sorry that the URL didn't show up...
Thu May 13 07:49:06 1999		Rad>	[CES] writing an e-mail
Thu May 13 08:02:12 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	I have upgraded to 1.5a, and it works great! What is wrong with the scrolling, though? I click to scroll, it doesn't work, I do it again, it works! ??? A bug?
Thu May 13 08:04:01 1999		Rad>	[WinterKnight][tmptmp] Thank you for your precious time and help. I will try and see - ask : )
Thu May 13 11:12:42 1999 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DonMossing		DonMossing>	Howdy.......
Thu May 13 14:58:48 1999		pete>	anybody listening?
Thu May 13 15:59:06 1999		kput>	Hello all, I am an spanish engineery student, and i need some help from anyone who uses DR-DOS, is there anyone who can help me?
Thu May 13 16:09:45 1999 11		CES>	Not here... Do you think that placing a slash after your URL would work? Attempting... E-mail me if it works. Gotta go...
Thu May 13 16:17:33 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, do not be hasty. About 90% of the people here are DOS users. kput, I use DR-DOS 7.03. E-Mail me if you want. And CES again, I would like to refer you to a tiny letter near the "1.5" number. Its an "a". Means, "alpha". Means, "run it and hope that the computer wouldnt blow up or something". ;)
Fri May 14 02:06:19 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	...? What are you talking about? WinterKnight, even though I am only 13, am am NOT a stupid idiot. Please do not treat me like one. I realize everything that you have said, except the comment about DOS users - what brought that up? tmptmp, got the mail. Thanx! I haven't gotten to installing it on my main workstation yet, but I will soon, I hope...
Fri May 14 04:51:28 1999		jack>	I found a non-java chat area which does not need a special download to chat. Try www.jakesbbs.8m.com/chat/ however it looks rather lonely now.
Fri May 14 08:26:26 1999		CES>	CD-ROM driver didn't work. Hmmm... I have it connected properly... Set up the driver right...
Fri May 14 08:42:43 1999		tmptmp>	CES, What brand cdrom is it, maybe I can find a driver for it around some where? --tmptmp
Fri May 14 12:41:42 1999		Chris>	Anybody here?
Fri May 14 15:33:59 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, I was not calling you an idiot. I also tend not to treat people like idiots. I was marely stating that there -are- people in here who are using DR-DOS, since you said there are non.
Fri May 14 22:34:03 1999		CES>	I did not say that there were none - I stated "Not here..." as in "I don't use DR-DOS." Get it?
Fri May 14 23:18:34 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	.. oops. Well, I guess i'm not updated with the latest american sleng here. (i'm not even updated with the -local- sleng to begin with). Anyway, lets keep in mind that we got culture diffrences here, so if I appear to insult you, that was not what I ment to say. :)
Sat May 15 01:06:40 1999		Jake>	"Not here" sounds more global than "not personally"... I've found that, when using tables for text simply to limit the line-length to 550pixels or whatever, Arachne needs the use of </P> tags, or else the paragraphs are displayed superimposed. My first solution was to put each paragraph in its own table!
Sat May 15 01:33:17 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	tmptmp, I installed DOS 6.22. Arachne seems to be working sooo much faster! I don't have stalls anymore (after images were done, after the pages were loaded, etc. there would be a stall)!!! The only drawback is the DIR command - slower than in 7.1. Oh well, I'll get used to it...
Sat May 15 02:22:02 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	I found another drawback - I can't rename dirs. I know I can in Windows 3.1 (when I get it) and the Dos Shell, but I am so used to DOS that I use it most of the time.
Sat May 15 02:33:02 1999		Jack>	Winternight, Sorry I missed you in jakes chat. Just 7 minutes. It is a lonely chat room. Maybe it will pick up.
Sat May 15 03:56:39 1999		Jake>	That Jake isn't this Jake!
Sat May 15 07:45:02 1999		Lunar>	CES In DOS 6 use MOVE cmd to rename dir as MOVE JUNK TRASH example from book ;-)
Sat May 15 08:43:52 1999		tmptmp>	CES, do you know about 6.22's fasthelp? At the prompt type 'fasthelp' then hit enter. --tmptmp
Sat May 15 10:13:58 1999		CES>	Yes, I know about fasthelp. So? That doesn't help me. It is just a drawback in 6.22, 7.1 has all of the enhancements. I will get used to it, as I am (well, hoping to, anyway) getting Windows 3.1. If I cannot get it, can any1 send it to me?
Sat May 15 11:46:20 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, 2 things: 1)Regarding MS-DOS vs DR-DOS, well, i'm for DR-DOS. Everything suddenly ran faster once I installed 7.02, and even better with 7.03. 2)Coping Windows 3.11.. well, if you do not care about the "illegal" part (its not abandonware), you might care about it taking 13 1.44MB disks. ;) I wouldnt want to transfer THAT trough E-Mail... you'll need FTP or someone that will mail it in snail-mail.
Sat May 15 14:24:57 1999		xchaos>	So what do you think about 1.50 beta ?
Sat May 15 14:42:18 1999		Lunar>	Will try 1.50 beta soon. Will I need to register again?
Sat May 15 16:47:11 1999		WinterKnight>	xChaos, 1.50b is great. Using it now. :) Lunar, nope. Just copy the key file from the old Arachne to the directory of the new one.
Sat May 15 16:49:11 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	xChaos, BTW, the new "button highlight" feature is cute, but somehow it keeps reminding me Office 97.. :P oh well. :)
Sat May 15 19:35:36 1999		CES>	WinterKnight, I know about the Windows 3.1 Installation. It is only 7 disks, and a relative is going to send it to me.
Sat May 15 20:06:59 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	The latest version and the most bug-free (as far as you can call an MS product, "bug free") is MS-Windows 3.11 for WorkGroups. Workgroup or not, that version was the last, and it seems to work faster then 3.1.. The installation takes about 12 diskettes. Number 13 is for network utilities. Usually unused by a local computer, but one can never know...
Sat May 15 22:57:19 1999		CES>	... Okay... how do you know this? Do you have the disks? Lunar, the MOVE command works only if there are no sub-dirs. If there are, then I have to xcopy the directory, or move directories manually.
Sun May 16 03:20:24 1999		Jake>	My Win3.11 is on seven diskettes, one of which is printer drivers. It's faster than 3.1 because of the 32-bit file access, which you set up in Control Panel's 386-Enhanced applet. Make sure you keep using QEMM, CES.
Sun May 16 03:28:58 1999		Jake>	CES: mail to ces.man@pods.pacifier.com bounced again. I was letting you know about a couple of replacements for DIR which you can download at http://www.cycenginst.free-online.co.uk/lhx.htm
Sun May 16 04:00:24 1999		Jake>	Pixel32 need to sort out their website. There's virtually no product information; all we're told is that the the program is save and print- disabled, so who would want to try it? Hardly any of the links are active and they don't tell us the system requirements or size of the download.
Sun May 16 04:53:12 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Jake, downloaded. I only check ces@pods.pacifier.com 1ce a month, so I would recommend mailing to ces@pods.pacifier.com.
Sun May 16 07:24:23 1999		tmptmp>	Hi Michael, 150b2 is giving an error messages loading APM's.
Sun May 16 08:36:06 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Jake, save and print disabled? that explains why I never managed to save. Though it doesnt explain why I couldnt load as well. :) CES, the installation for Windows for WorkGroups I have is on 13 diskettes. I installed it about 5 times using these diskettes. (last 3 times was because of a disk crash)
Sun May 16 09:20:09 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Well then, WinterKnight, would you be kind enough as to send me copies or something, if it wouldn't cost me that much for postage? How could we do it, anyway? I really need Win3.1 for a lot of web stuff (I will still use Arachne as my browser, just need stuff to actually MAKE pages with) and with school stuff, and I found out that my grandfather isn't going to send me the disks as promised. Jake, I meant that I don't check ces.man@pods.pacifier.com that much. Sorry :)
Sun May 16 09:23:30 1999		Boanne>	Seems odd to see so much talk of Windoze in the Arachne chat... :)
Sun May 16 09:32:25 1999		tmptmp>	CES, would you like a copy of XTreeGold?
Sun May 16 09:35:43 1999 http://www.sound.net/~ashelton/dinosaur/dg.htm		Boanne>	But you don't need Windows to make HTML pages, any text editor will do...Do you need an HTML reference? I have one I can send you email if you need it...
Sun May 16 12:02:08 1999		Stef.>	Well, what is the number of the current version? 1.48b2 or 1.50b2? anyway: anybody in here tryed that "netdosupraging"?? does it mean, that all the settings will be saved? or will i have to adjust all, like at a new install?
Sun May 16 12:03:40 1999		Stef.>	oh, well sorry! nice fault by typing: upraging! i want to write "upgrading" of course...
Sun May 16 12:14:09 1999		Jake>	CES: got YOUR mail, but a "reply to" bounced. The Mailer-Daemon says he/she/it can't find your host pods.pacifier.com Anyway, the download is quicker than carrying on the correspondence!
Sun May 16 13:41:15 1999		xchaos>	Stef. The netdos upgrading means only, that the installer is automatically launched ....
Sun May 16 13:59:03 1999		Stef.>	Oh, i see. so i will wait a bit with 1.5b2, my 1.5a is working well...
Sun May 16 17:44:04 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Boanne, this is Windows 3.11, not 95. I tend to take 3.11 as the "least worst" windows. Etleast you could -exit- the thing, without it changing and tempring with DOS and the boot, and you could load and shut it down faster then 95.. not to mention that it could work on a 486 in a reasonable speed. :)
Sun May 16 17:47:32 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Re: HTML editing, as HTML files are actually text files it is obviouse that typical text editors would do the job. However, graphical editing software for HTML in which the WYSIWYG method is implemented widely, are not availble for DOS, etleast not any that I know of.. This makes Windows 3.11, which is the closest Windows got to DOS, the best DOS-oriented choice for using such software. However, if anybody here knows of a DOS HTML WYSIWYG editor, please do tell me! I could really use one.. :)
Sun May 16 18:33:13 1999		Jake>	Maybe in the New Deal suite? Butane, who visited a few days ago, has a website assembled with DOS-Edit. The Windows software can cope with automatically updating links etc. throughout the site.
Sun May 16 19:00:50 1999		tmptmp>	xchaos, the APM's are not loading properly in 15b2. Aside from that, everything is wonderful and it flys. --tmptmp
Sun May 16 19:09:30 1999		tmptmp>	15b2, 'page source' as well :) --tmptmp
Sun May 16 19:59:47 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	I used to have XTreeGold, tmptmp, and I would love to have it again (my hard drive crashed - a bootsector virus - and I lost everything)!!! Boanne, I would like to GRAPHICALLY create my page. I do raw HTML work when I make the final page layout, just to tune things up. I have only found 1 graphical DOS editor, but they are not making beta versions anymore and I would have to buy the product. tmptmp, my CD-ROM drive is a MITSUMI.
Sun May 16 20:02:17 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Jake, I have NO idea what iz going on. I got one of your e-mails at CES@PODS.PACIFIER.COM, so maybe I am really getting the mail but it sayz you are not. (sorry for the "z"'s, I am doing this because that iz what I do on IRC chat.
Sun May 16 20:34:48 1999		tmptmp>	CES, if you have a virus free floppy with the system on it you can get rid of a bootsector virus without reformatting the hard drive. Boot-up from the floppy. At the prompt type 'fdisk / mbr' hit return. That's all there is to it and it works.
Sun May 16 20:36:29 1999		tmptmp>	More - boot sector virus. It only works in DOS. Those poor souls who only know Windows are at a great disadvantage. --tmptmp
Sun May 16 20:52:45 1999		tmptmp>	Boot sector virus - More. A way to know if there is a boot sector virus, again using DOS, is to run CHKDSK. If 'total bytes memory' (next to the last number generated) is anything other than 655360 there is probably a boot sector virus. --tmptmp
Sun May 16 20:59:46 1999		tmptmp>	xChaos, 15b2, back to the drawing board :) --tmptmp
Sun May 16 22:53:33 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	tmptmp, I know this! I said I had it! I don't anymore! And the memory thing isn't always true (in this case it is), some computers have less than 640K conventional memory. The virus allocated 2K to reserved memory everytime the computer was restarted. So I knew I had something wrong, and it happened to be a virus. I found out too late, and lost everything. But, well, it is doing good now, and I have a pretty good virus scanner (I am borrowing the DOS part of Dr. Solomons Anti-Virus). Hmmm... I am just talking like an idiot now...
Mon May 17 02:12:45 1999		Jake>	F-Prot antivirus from Iceland is free for personal use. Any number of things can cause a Windows glitch, so it's best to use a non-Windows A.V. - preferably regularly! And while you look for the cause of the smashed Windows (before deciding on a re-install) you can moan to the rest of the world via Arachne...
Mon May 17 10:06:02 1999 http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/		Bernie>	1.50B2 isn't working correctly, download a fix from my homepage (yes, I created the error with APMs and I hope I've fixed it). But if you aren't in a hurry there should be a new version out any day now...
Mon May 17 15:16:49 1999		RONjb>	Arachne 15b2, Mail with attachments, the first attachment is displayed in subsequent mail attachments. Hitting reload will display the correct one.
Mon May 17 15:41:17 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	So I guess I should stick to 15b1 for now?..
Mon May 17 17:21:16 1999 http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/		Bernie>	You can always copy an old AMP.EXE and 1.50b2 will work OK. Or change the line that I mentioned in the mailinglist to mime.cfg
Tue May 18 02:11:00 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Which mailing-list?
Tue May 18 07:22:04 1999		Jen>	I have Window 98, and I can't get Arachne to work in DOS. It only works in Win98.
Tue May 18 07:23:16 1999		Jen>	I would also like to know if I can get it to accept cookies. I would like to personalize NetCenter
Tue May 18 07:25:49 1999		Jen>	I would like it to work in DOS, because I think it would work faster!
Tue May 18 07:27:09 1999		Jen>	Anyway if anyone has the answer please email me at jennifer-brice@operamail.com
Tue May 18 08:22:08 1999		tmptmp>	Using apm.exe from 148 worked too. --tmptmp
Tue May 18 10:59:38 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Jen, Arachne can accept cookies. Unfortunatly, I do not think that the support is complete.. the cookies work with 99% of the sites I visit, however I know of a site that will accept any cookie from any Browser.. unless its Arachne or DR-WebSpyder. I didnt tried Lynx yet. That site is using Apachne, and the Admin claims that they did not installed any "defences" to reject "unknown browsers". Weird.
Tue May 18 11:43:34 1999 http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/		Bernie>	WinterKnight: The arachne mailinglist of course.
Tue May 18 16:49:34 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	zzzzz Sorry, had to do something.
Tue May 18 18:23:58 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Bernie, i'm not in it.. got too many letters last time I tried. Is it safe now? :)
Tue May 18 22:48:50 1999 http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/apm.htm		Bernie>	Oh, yes I thought about that later in the day and figured that I didn't see the incredible ammount of mail that you send to SurvPC in the Arachne list. Well, it's safe, but it lacks some of the better parts of the SurvPC list (seeing your own mail) and it's slower when sending out new mail. But it's good to keep in contact what's new with Arachne (and I do mean real new then, not like the pages here or arachne-announce mails). You all missed the bug-fix for 1.50B2, easiest sollution is still to copy an old one, or get the latest (hopefully correct) from my homepage.
Wed May 19 00:39:42 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Sorry. :)
Wed May 19 05:24:49 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Just checking in...
Wed May 19 11:06:51 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Well, I have a problem to report. With my 386SX/25, loading of the extra things in 1.5b2 (the popup buttons, write/read file buttons, etc) load too slowly. There should be an option to turn this off, and make it perform like the older versions of Arachne. Another problem is a HUGE slowdown, some image loading problems (backrounds aren't complete) and extra hard disk activity (caused by Arachne trying to load all of these extra things). Sometimes hard disk activity interferes with page loading, and stops it - slowing things down dramatically. Just an extra note I had to add - after entering this message and clicking on Nick:, it took about 4 second. Blah!
Wed May 19 11:08:24 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	It took about 41 seconds after posting the last message to get control - bad considering that Arachne v1.47B and v1.5A only took around 20 seconds...
Wed May 19 12:55:01 1999		PT>	I can't use PCI Modem on Arachne. Is there a fix?
Wed May 19 17:53:44 1999		CES>	The problem may be that the modem is a windows-only modem. It may run with the drivers in windows ONLY. My friend was able to fix this, by running Arachne shelled from Windows...
Wed May 19 19:42:41 1999		LOVSKOV>	I can't install *.apm packages in the newest version of Arachne. Is it only me or is there others having the same problem
Wed May 19 20:10:04 1999		Vlad>	Hi all !
Wed May 19 21:31:50 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	PT, the problem with PCI modems is that they are Plug and Play (CES, this doesnt mean they have to be WinModems.). A friend of mine claims that once he configured his modem via Windows once, he could continue to access it via DOS after that. I dont know for myself, but this might work. However, if the modem is indeed a WinModem as CES suggested.. sorry. It will only work with Windows in the background.
Wed May 19 21:34:14 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	There GOT to be a solution for using PnP under DOS. This is becoming a real problem latly. Anyone knows an existing solution?
Wed May 19 22:43:38 1999		tmptmp>	LOVSKOV, its 150b. Use apm.exe from 148
Thu May 20 00:05:23 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	WinterKnight, you are partially correct. A plug-and-play modem can run with DOS drivers, as with Windows. If the modem could run in DOS, then the problem would not be with the plug-and-play, but the fact that the modem is a windows-only modem. Get it? Let me simplify - a PnP with DOS drivers would't have the probs, yet a PnP with Windows drivers would. :)
Thu May 20 09:28:13 1999		PT>	CES abd WinterKnight. I think there is PnP Driver for DOS. can someone check out.
Thu May 20 11:44:28 1999		Ron>	What is the difference of the three options in mail, what do they do? 7 bit, 8 bit, quote?
Thu May 20 14:50:18 1999		Kip>	Does Arachne support JavaScript?
Thu May 20 14:50:38 1999		Kip>	If so, at what level?
Thu May 20 16:58:11 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	With winmodems, it stripped out the cpu and stuff and make the real CPU do that work. So you need drivers under the doze to make it work - and make it doze even more. Fancy a Parker Bros game?
Thu May 20 17:04:51 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	Ron: there is no real difference. But since you dont seem to be in the US, pick 8 bit or quoted-printable so you can access letters not in the first 7 bits of ASCII. FYI, quoted-printable pretends to be 8 bit while taking 7 bits. this is useful when sending through servers that dont like the extra bits, and the client on the other side puts it back into 8 bit viewable. Kip: There is no javascript at all in Arachne. But try DR-Webspyer from www.calderathin.com which seems to have it [I never tested]. It's based on Arachne, but needs a 386 and a few megs of RAM. JS would be quite hard to implement IMHO, esp in a DOS browser that needs to fit into a 'measly' 500k [needs some for the packet driver]. The big browsers take several 10s of megabytes before attempting to do *anything*. So Michael has got to be congratulated. :)
Thu May 20 19:11:25 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	I got DR-WebSpyder. Its nice, smooth, crash less.. BUT. If your idea of internet browsing is running several types of internet applications, without being restricted only to WWW (not even FTP), and only be able to download Zip file, and getting a really basic capability E-Mail client.. forget it. :) The only 4 advantages DR-WebSpyder has over Arachne are its stability, great support for frames and Animated gifs, and beta-level JavaScript. However, that browser was designed for WebTVs and internet-kiosks. So its not as flexible as Arachne. Arachne beats WebSpy when it comes to PC internet browsing. (and several other browsers I know.). So, i'll stay with Arachne.. :) for now, the highest level of JavaScript availble is simply its ability to ignore JavaScript. In the future, this very well might be implemented. So lets wait and see...
Thu May 20 20:17:48 1999 http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/		Bernie>	Michael talked about incorporating JavaScript in Arachne quite a while back (march?), a perfect example of what you miss if you aren't on the mailinglist.
Thu May 20 20:26:54 1999		Kip>	Hoody - thanks for the data...on DR Webspyer
Thu May 20 20:28:55 1999		Kip>	WinterKnight: why would lack of JavaScript support be a feature?
Thu May 20 21:56:13 1999 http://www.angelfire.com/sc/ccchhan		Cardboard>	I have a question concerning the copy and paste. Since, I use this function a lot, is there a way to go around this because Arachne seems to only support one line copying. Is there a way to go around this. I think there is, there must be a file it copies the information to, it doesn't copy to clipboard (I don't think). It is possible to alter this file or the clipboard to copying more lines is possible, right? About Java, I heard a about that 3 months ago cause I'm into these things. I really have no comment on that one. I want Java cause I want to chat. About that, chat. Has anyone tried HTML chat, does it work, there is one my page but I haven't really tested it out. Is there a descent from of chat. I really don't like this 'message board.' I'm also wondering about another thing, Window 3.1 compatible broswer. Is there any? I know there is but the ones I tried (MSE 1,2, NetScape) but they seem to search for winsock.dll and that's only for win 95 and is not compatible with 3.1. Can anyone help me on this one? Well, see ya.
Thu May 20 22:47:38 1999		Jake>	Long time no see, Cardboard! About Win3.1 browsers, on balance I've found MSIE3 the best for my 486/25 with 12MB. Netscape3 is better for big JPEGs and downloading files. Opera3.2 has some unique features but was too unreliable for me (maybe due to Trumpet Winsock). MSIE can be downloaded with its own dialler (recommended) and mail client. I can rustle up the exact locations from Bill's place, if you want. A real hoot was that MSIE3 wouldn't display MSoft's webpages in readable form! (Apologies to those who shudder at any praise for MS stuff). There's a new ISP in the UK with free access and no 'phone charges for off-peak use. But you have to install MSIE5 to join. Anti-competitive or what?! (Yep, the ISP is owned by a PC seller)
Thu May 20 23:35:53 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	I didnt said that a lake of javascript is a feature.. but its important to be able to evade javascript if the browser do not support it yet. Anyhow, Michael mentioned he will work on it.. I also read somewhere that he will include multi-line copy&paste in the future?
Thu May 20 23:46:37 1999		CES>	WinterKnight, regarding the WinModem thing - I just looked over the text. I DID NOT SAY WINMODEM! I said "windows-only modem". In other words, (mostly) PnP modems that only have Windows drivers. Get it now?
Fri May 21 00:07:39 1999		tmptmp>	Cardboard, the file is quickpad.ah
Fri May 21 00:11:42 1999		tmptmp>	Cardboard, Revised. Look at both quickpad.txt and textarea.tmp
Fri May 21 00:20:30 1999		Jake>	tmptmp: hope the Linux installation has gone smoothly. Any chance of mailing me that handwriting font? Cardboard: if you want an old Win3.1 MS browser try: www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/ie3sp1_win16/en/ie3sp1_win16.htm (gulp!)
Fri May 21 09:24:25 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Well, testing v1.47B with my (soon to be mine, just borrowing right now) 386SX/20 laptop. Same modem speed as my other (19200), the only disatvantage so far is color... :) Well, goin' to try IRC with this macine... Current time is around midnight, so I better hurry!
Fri May 21 11:06:05 1999		Stef.>	Concerning that "one-line-copy
Fri May 21 11:07:57 1999		Stef.>	erg! first try failed! i'd like to say that the external editor, which can be found as APM on the arachne downloadpage is a very nice editor, whith unlimited copy and paste. hope it appears on the screen this time...
Fri May 21 11:08:39 1999		Stef.>	well, yes! :-]
Fri May 21 15:15:38 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	CES, I didnt understood that one. Usually windows-only modems mean WinModems. PnP usually refer to PnP. And PnP dont always have Windows only drivers.
Fri May 21 16:45:36 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	About the PnP stuff - that waz what I waz saying! Yet what I mean by windows-only modems is that they only have Windows drivers - easier to understand yet? There is something really weird with this laptop - IT GOES FASTER! Argh! I am sick today, so going to check in a bit... (and still using the laptop)
Sat May 22 04:15:25 1999		tmptmp>	Jake, I have not tackled linux yet, but I will. As for the font, its only incorporated in my wp51 .all file and I wouldn't even begin to be able to tell you how I made it other than I started with MS's Comic_Sans form Windows using the utility available at Arachne's download site and at some point that became an pcx image of all the letters and from there various other forms intil there was a dot image of each letter that was edit-able and the re-constructed into an autofont that wp51 could use. I might be able to give you a list of the little font maniupulation programs, (all early dos programs,) or even the programs but in what order I used them I have no memory.
Sat May 22 05:49:10 1999		tmptmp>	Stef, Where you on-line when you did that? I've tried it off-line and was not able to get it to stay while I logged on.
Sat May 22 06:07:04 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Well, this is a test to see how Internet Explorer 3.0 works on my machine. It seems to be going faster, and I like it better. I may stick with it for a while, but I am not uninstalling Arachne... Who knows what this thing will do?
Sat May 22 08:11:22 1999		Stef.>	tmptmp: sorry i don't uunderstand your question! unfortunately i'll be unable to check here one or two days...
Sat May 22 12:11:13 1999 ttp://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Well, it looks like I am going to stick with IE3 for a while. When new Arachne downloads come out, I'll test them - once one is more reliable and faster than IE3 on my machine (which is definately possible), I will start using it. The main drawback of both of the two is that you can't go anywhere while downloading, or you disrupt the download. Will Arachne ever have a backround downloading feature?
Sat May 22 15:17:48 1999		Jake>	CES: When I downloaded MSIE3 (using Netscape) I was able to write a long email at the same time. I use FoxMail which is freeware. Try a right-click and "Save Target As" in IE to preserve a webpage's filename and save it quickly without downloading the images. That Xedit is good - but better if it used "standard" copy/paste shortcuts and "remembered" the current directory. With A1.5b2 I find a small problem: when I use tables purely as a means to limit line-length, and I have a section centered, the closing </center> tag has no effect: all subsequent content is centered. A simple work-round is to close the table and start a new one. The animated GIFs display faster than in my Windows browsers, but some with slight damage are not displayed at all. One "psychadelic" page, made up of a checkerboard pattern of 2 anigifs "runs out of steam" and is reduced to 16 colors.
Sat May 22 17:45:46 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	CES: Non-WinModems don't need drivers. For example I'm currently using a modem made by Maestro, I used to have a RedBack and my friend has a Banksia Wave modem. They're all external and can be swapped around without configuring software. :-P BTW, My internal modem didn't need reconfiguring as it is a 2400bps one. If there is a 'driver' for a modem, the only thing it really is a different set of "AT" commands so the modem works the best.
Sat May 22 17:54:05 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	CardBoard: What do you mean there's no winsock.dll in w3.1? You mean for years I was using W95 while thinking it was 3.1? Even before 1995? I think not. Get Trumpet Winsock from www.trumpet.com.au and you'll get your winsock.dll. I'm sure some of you would have heard about my feat: 486SX33 laptop w/4MB RAM running MS-DOS 6.22 and W3.10. 8MB swap. Running at the same time: Opera, WS-FTP, Eudora, mIRC, Free Agent, Lotus SmartCentre, Trumpet Winsock 3. It worked quite well except when alt-tabbing. I was downloading with Opera, uploading with WS_FTP, downloading mail with Eudora and chatting to Catfish about it at the same time, once. :)
Sat May 22 17:59:47 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	CES: Arachne almost has the background download feature: press Ctrl while clicking on the link. The page will download in the background while you read the current page. But I never even tried to change pages while doing this so I wouldn't know. I *suspect* it will stop the download.
Sat May 22 18:02:14 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	With the talk of IE under W 3.1, has anyone tried IE5 for W3.1? I wouldn't mind trying it to see. I had Netscape 4 on Mum's 386DX40 for about a week. SLOW!!! That computer isn't normally a internet computer so it got deleted.
Sat May 22 18:08:09 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	Arachne is better than Netscape4! Well, just for the BACKGROUND thingy in tables. IE3 has them, but Netscape 4 only half-implements it. A page I'm developing [only for students at my uni who use the labs] looks good in Arachne and IE4 but not as good in NS4. Here's a way to annoy IE5 users: in the body tag: <BODY {normal stuff} BACKGROUND="bg.gif" BGPROPERTIES=FIXED> this will cause the scrolling to be really jerky.
Sat May 22 18:09:30 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	tmptmp: WTF about those fonts?
Sat May 22 20:05:25 1999		tmptmp>	Hoody, what does WFT stand for?
Sat May 22 20:09:17 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	HOODY! I know about the Ctrl+Click thing! The modems you are talking about are not windows-only modems! They are external! You should know this! It is directly connected to a port, so DOS knows this - yet, with some internal modems, you have to have DOS drivers. Hoody, my system is worse than yours - Windows for Workgroups 3.11, IE, 398SX/25 w/4MB ram and a 10MB swapfile on my second hard disk. Beat that! The comment about the 2400 bps modems - did Windows 95 take over then? I think not. 2400 bps are old, and (almost) all work (they are configed via jumpers, not drivers [some modems that require drivers are not PnP - strange]). (phew!) So, do you get everything I have said? (I don't know if I do!)
Sat May 22 20:11:35 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Another note to Hoody - browsing in IE with 3 windows, uploading with WS_FTP, playing games (Minesweeper and Solitare), Using File Manager to organize incoming donwloads, and chatting with mIRC at the same time. Amazingly I got by, with 8% system resources left (ouch!)
Sat May 22 23:18:45 1999		tmptmp>	Jake, (and Hoody) It might have been simpler to just to say it was complicated making that font and it is not portable but I can give you the software I used to make it if you wish.
Sun May 23 01:17:15 1999		Jake>	tmptmp: Thanx, but I'll leave font-tweaking to you experts. You've seen my handwriting! Read "WTF" as "What The (expletive deleted)". You might be interested in www.best.com/~aturner/RedHat-FAQ/faq_index.html and http://linux.davecentral.com Hoody: I was hoping to cadge an elegant TrueType handwriting font I received in snailmail from tmptmp. However, it seems almost as unique as true handwriting. I'm having a problem with my ISP. Background images won't display on some new webpages. The originals are OK, but NOT as downloads. I thought the ISP might've introduced a delay to check for porno, but I can download and display the individual images. The problem is evident in Arachne and MSIE. The ISP Tech Support is averagely poor and likely to tell me it's an HTML fault. Any ideas?
Sun May 23 01:57:52 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Hoody, re: winsock, if I am not mistaken I think that in Windows95 it was: winsock32.dll. I do not remember seeing that one in 3.x. What I had in 3.x was just winsock.dll.
Sun May 23 07:24:05 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	WK: yeah in w95 its winsck32.dll IIRC but cardboard said winsock.dll. If it can't find the 32 version it probably wouldn't work properly anyway. [unless win32s is there]
Sun May 23 07:25:40 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	CES: Are you talking about fossil?
Sun May 23 07:34:21 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody>	Jake: It sounds like either HTML or JPEG (?) problem. So you're saying its alright when you download one way, but not another? Do some backgrounds work OK? http://www.connect.usq.edu.au/ students/q9821823/3d-test.htm is a page with backgrounds for both the 'desktop' and tables. There's no content there yet, but you wouldn't want it anyway. :)
Sun May 23 09:44:28 1999		Vadyara>	Hi
Sun May 23 09:49:32 1999		astro>	Were can I get a working apm.exe ?? and some apm files for playing an mp3 and other cool stuff... (sorry if it is amp not apm not sure :))
Sun May 23 10:49:22 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Am I talking about fossil drivers? NO!!! tmptmp, to put it simply, WTF is the nice (if there really is one) way of saying "what the fuck." Another note, tmptmp, I got a 10X drive and a PCI video card (Phantom 3D) for installing a cdrom drive into an office computer. Cinch. It works perfectly, too, and all I need (and probably won't soon - see below) is a Win3.1 cd player (I don't have the MCI driver). As far as I know, tomorrow I am getting one of those HUGE towers. But, it is not that old - packed with a 486 (guessing either 66Mhz, by its looks, or 133, by my tests), 16MB ram, 4COM/2LPT ports, 1.2GB hd, 2FD's (1 of each HD). If I get the time, I will re-install Windows 95 and get IE5.0 (possibly). All of this for setting up an office network - not even that, just HELPING to set up the network... heh heh...
Sun May 23 10:51:03 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	My tests were just quick tests - I had used a 66, but the computer seemed to go a lot faster.
Sun May 23 14:10:04 1999 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/		WinterKnight>	Astro, its possible to get an MP3 player from the Arachne download section. Look for the QuikView APM. Re: working APM.EXE, well, you can take one out of an older Arachne.. or wait for Michael to fix it. :)
Sun May 23 19:41:53 1999		tmptmp>	Jake, thanks for the RHlinux faq sites.
Sun May 23 20:37:41 1999		Stef.>	what about the following: if you use a ram-drive for the cookies, it's possible to allow them and to get rid of them when you turn of the computer. isn't that nice? at ie5 i really don't know what info if stored where...
Sun May 23 21:23:35 1999 http://members.xoom.com/CPAPAGE		CES>	Yes, that could be good, Stef. I just don't turn off my computer though. I found out what the problem with my CDROM drive (10X, not 4X) is - it will only read audio CD's as audio if the first track is audio. If the first track is data, the drive thinks that the whole CD is data. Does any1 know where to find a WAV player for DOS or Windows 3.11 that isn't limited by memory (so I can play 35-50MB waves)? I have a program called DAC - Digital Audio Copy. It can copy the songs from music CD's to WAV's, and Windows' wave player is limited by memory.
Sun May 23 22:51:35 1999 http://www.bigfoot.com/~tilt		Tilt (GOD)>	hi, i've been on a quest to find a telnet application that will do better than vt102, maby vt220 or ansi-bbs emmulation, does anybody know a site whare i can findo souch an application, or a site with some good network applications, i'm always in the mood to try new stuff ;>
Mon May 24 03:18:38 1999		Q>	I can't install arachne, the setup exits by itself, anyone can help?
Mon May 24 03:49:53 1999		tmptmp>	Q, perhaps if you can give a step-by-step discription of what you do and what happens I may be able to help. From the first step until you run into trouble.
Mon May 24 08:41:05 1999 http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/apm.htm		Bernie>	Astro: I put together DOSAMP as an APM and this is better than QV since it doesn't pause after playing. (but there is something wrong with the init). Get a (hopefully) working copy of APM.EXE there too.
Mon May 24 09:07:54 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	IE 3.0 for Win95 makes everything look weird. Yes, I do have Windows 95! Wahoo! Just have to get a tape drive to borrow or something to transfer the files over... I am going to set up my other computer as a workstation or something. I don't know yet, trying to copy over small things... Hmmm... I am soo bored right now... I need to get mIRC! Well, bbs...
Mon May 24 15:24:18 1999		GP>	?
Tue May 25 01:12:13 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	I had just installed IE5 for Win95. It seems to be working okay. I know of the bugs with Arachne Chat using IE5, but, oh well... Does anybody know where to get IE5 that doesn't incude a specific site's name everywhere? Mine happens to be Spot.com, and it annoys me...
Tue May 25 01:39:48 1999		Jake>	CES: you could download IE5 from Bill's place, if you've got the time. Good thing you're not running Win98 on the computer you never turn off: there's a bug that crashes it after 49.7 days (if not before ;-} Have you tried the Opera browser yet?
Tue May 25 05:26:49 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hmmm. Opera... I'll download it later. Strange bug in Win98. Has anybody ran into it yet? Or have you, Jake? Where is this "Bill's place"? microsoft.com? Okay, I will do it tonight...
Tue May 25 05:53:04 1999		Jake>	Opera fitz on a flop, but costs 35 bux after the evaluation. I read about the Win98 bug, somewhere -- don't think it was a joke. I still use Win3.11 "In a world without fences, who needs Gates?" I must try Opera again, with the MS dialer. It was not too good with Trumpet Winsock. I think version 3.2 had advantages over 3.5, like opening webpages offline from File Manager. Opera will save pages with images intact. Do an ftp-search for o320e16.exe for the Win3.1x version. The 32-bit version should be close by. Operasoftware.com don't keep old versions on their site.
Tue May 25 13:03:06 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hmmm... Does it make you stop using Opera after the evaluation period, or does it bug you a lot? Upgrading IE5 didn't work. Neither did re-installing it. Guess I am stuck with the Snap.Com thing until the next version hits the web... (geez, that waz a waste of 5 hours...) Hmmm... Still need to download soo many things, better get GetRight... hehe... Also, I am now using my old Yahoo! account with Yahoo Pager. If I am online, I will reply immediately.
Tue May 25 16:11:11 1999		Jake>	Opera conks out completely after 30 days' use (not 30 days on the calendar). Then you pay up or try a reinstall of Windows. I've not tried keeping a backup of pre-installation *.ini files to restore. Prove you're in education and you get Opera for half-price. Along with saving images with webpages, new v3.6 will save CSS.
Tue May 25 20:30:11 1999		Jake>	Well I've just tried Opera3.6 and it allows me to view some sites that are impossible with other browsers on this 486/25 e.g. www.alistapart.com and the awful www.pcplus.co.uk Opera is meant to be very faithful to HTML standards, yet I've got a webpage where it drops <bold> for some reason.
Tue May 25 21:45:33 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hmmm... If I've gotta pay, then, well, it gives me something to think about... I am getting rediculously bored. Does anybody have any games they could give me a copy of? WinterKnight - Win95 actually seems reliable! It is strange, but is is - how could I put this - "stable". My friends computers are all messed-up - strange...
Tue May 25 22:28:48 1999		Teller>	Hi,
Wed May 26 02:04:42 1999		Jake>	Well, Opera STILL crashes frequently on my system.
Wed May 26 02:49:53 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Yesssssss!!! Did another install, removing evertyhing resembling IE5 first, and now I have no more of that Spin.com crap! Wahoooooo! All I need to download (as a browser) now is the latest Communicator. Hmmm... I am hooking up that old computer in my sis's room, so she will be using IE3 for Win3.1, and, because she likes jpIRC more that mIRC (don't ask me), Arachne to dial, then browse when she is done chatting. Also, I will test all new versions of Arachne that come out and notify you guys of bugs if I find them.
Wed May 26 09:13:34 1999		Netriangle>	Greetings, I was wondering if anyone out there in virtual land can try to help me with debugging my problem with Arachne. everything seemed to load fine but the dialing never works right. I always says that there is no carrier. I am using a 486 with 8 Meg of RAM and a 14.4 modem. I know I haven't given enough info here for anyone to figure out the problem. Just wanted to see if anyone has the inclination first. Thanks in advance, Netriangle
Wed May 26 11:03:05 1999		Notable>	Netriangle; Tell use more. It look like you are not setup right.
Wed May 26 16:01:00 1999		iko>	hi
Wed May 26 16:25:32 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	I am usning Netscape Communicator to view this page. Awfully slow, yet I like it more than IE. Hmmm, now I am thinking of Arachne's loading speed as compared to this stuff... All I need is a monitor and that other computer is ready to go. And, when I get my 33.6, I may think of using Arachne on this computer more.
Wed May 26 21:28:47 1999		Horsa (male)>	Speak here someone Czech ?
Wed May 26 21:31:16 1999		Horsa (male)>	Tak co ? Jste tady, nebo ne ?
Wed May 26 22:10:43 1999		Jake>	Netriangle: don't trust Arachne to correctly detect your modem. Mine's on COM1 and most software assumes my mouse on COM2 is more interesting.
Wed May 26 23:46:40 1999		Jake>	I've been making a webpage with a 3-column table to display captions for named colors with their RGB and hexadecimal equivalents. The colorname and hex cells have their background color set by name or hex value, so you can check whether there's any difference with their display by the browser. Arachne doesn't support all the colornames -- for instance any with "blue" in the name are all displayed as the same color blue. The file's about 40KB and I'll put it up if anyone's interested. The guestbook at www.operasoftware.com is about 100KB. It crashes MSIE3 sometimes, even trying to read it offline. It displayed quickly (offline) in Arachne.
Thu May 27 00:01:57 1999		Jake>	Arachne is the best of the bunch for me for downloading the www.operasoftware.com guestbook. Just thought y'all'd like to know that! (Especially after all the non-A chat after the last few days). Arachne displays GIFs faster than any of the other browsers I use, and there's less color dithering APART from JPEGs which are S-L-O-W and not good quality.
Thu May 27 00:15:49 1999		Seo>	There is no one who can make Korean-encoding APM? I want do it , but I don't have any skills. (I only know a little C) But I can give data about Hangul(Korean Character) code system. please tell me who is interested about Hangul code for ARACHNE in mail.
Thu May 27 16:17:56 1999		Marpon>	Using latest version of Arachne,and it's great.
Thu May 27 17:01:12 1999 http://i.am/hoody		Hoody.Lynx>	I thought I might drop by and see how you all are!
Fri May 28 01:26:38 1999		Illuvatar>	Hi
Fri May 28 01:26:53 1999		Illuvatar>	Anyone here.
Fri May 28 02:16:10 1999 www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes		I have tried typing in the IP address and leaving it blank to be detected-neither seems to help. JAKE you are right, ARACHNE can't autodetect my modem, I have to put it in manually. Anyone have a thought as to where I should begin to look for a problem. Thanks, Netriangle
Fri May 28 10:41:06 1999		tmptmp>	Netriangle, what modem are you using? What operating system?
Fri May 28 17:34:18 1999		Netriangle>	tmptmp, I am using win 3.1. So I am basically trying to run ARACHNE from real DOS. I have disabled com 2 in the Bios, set the jumpers on the modem to Com 2, IRQ 3. I am not sure what the dip switch settings are on the modem but I just downloaded a text file from the internet that should explain the jumper settings but I assume they have to do with stop bits, parity/non parity etc. and won't need to be changed. I have just reformatted the hard drive to start fresh and I might try and external 14.4 modem that I picked up. I will try to set up ARACHNE before I reinstall WIN 3.1. I attempted to install WEBBOY also and had no luck with that in connecting to my ISP. Thanks, Doug Wright
Fri May 28 17:36:43 1999		Netriangle>	tmptmp, I guess I didn't really give you the specifics on the modem I am trying to use. IT is a USRobotics Sportster 14.4 with the world's loudest speaker. There is no doubt when it is trying to connect. Thanks
Fri May 28 18:15:04 1999		Seo - Korean>	To 'Or Botton' and others I tried ttf2fnt to make Korean Font. But failed I think this problem is originated from the difference of Hangul (Korean character) Code. Unlikely Alphabet, Hangul is 2 byte character. In other words, to express 1 character with Hangul , 2 byte (16bit) are needed. But I think arachne support byte to byte change. thanks anyway.
Sat May 29 00:22:45 1999		Jake>	Here's a quote about a computer-refurbishmnet project in Baltimore (http://www.unixgeeks.org/tpp/index.html) I think stuff like this becomes VERY useful, М4hen And for CES, a May 05 PCWorld article via the Andover News Network: "Windows 98 Second Edition...also includes all bug fixes released since Windows 98's debut. Among them is a fix for a bug that sends information about your system hardware to Microsoft when you register new software online. That glitch, covered in March, affects only users who have ethernet adapter cards, but it raised great concern among privacy-conscious Netizens. Also fixed is a bug that causes Windows 98 to crash after it has been running for 49.7 consecutive days."
Sat May 29 02:49:04 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Hey! My 14.4 was a USR! A sportster! E-mail me and I will tell you how to fix the probelm (took me a week to figure it out)... I am probably going to trade that 25Mhz to some1 with a 66Mzh 486. They don't know better... I have to give up a hard drive, though.
Sat May 29 03:18:38 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Well, viewing the page in Netscape Commnuicator... Very strange looking... Hmmm....
Sun May 30 00:19:04 1999		Vadyara_from Russia>	Hi,excus me.Your dont know where must download bbs soft?
Sun May 30 00:57:47 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Did you say that you wanted to download BBS software?
Sun May 30 03:12:11 1999		Jake>	Vadyara: is it called something like Banana or Bananacom you need? I could email a copy.
Sun May 30 04:20:27 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	To people that gave me software in the past-- I now support it at my new address. Make sure that the attached file(s) are less that 1.4 megs. This is a note to anybody who wishes to send me software through e-mail instead of sending it via snail mail, posting it on a web site, etc.
Sun May 30 09:49:45 1999		Zero>	anyone here? :)
Sun May 30 09:57:20 1999		Lunar>	Just lurking! ;-)
Sun May 30 17:49:10 1999 http://members.xoom.com/colbys		CES>	Been slow around here lately...
Sun May 30 18:53:31 1999		don>	hi i'm trying this on webtv basic no java in webtv.is this html?
Sun May 30 18:56:10 1999		don>	anybody on besides me?
Sun May 30 20:21:21 1999		tmptmp>	Don, I believe so.
Sun May 30 20:21:41 1999		tmptmp>	Don, html, that is.
Mon May 31 03:09:26 1999		anand>	Just testing to see if this is one of those chat pages where messages appear immediately after they're sent
Mon May 31 03:12:34 1999		CES>	don, ppl normaly don't come here and chat at the same tiem. It is more like a message board...
Mon May 31 03:12:58 1999		anand>	Yes, I guess this is a 'real' chat page, I wonder why does anyone use 'america online' when this is available? Is this supposed to be used only for discussion of the Arachne browser, or for all kinds of discussion?
Mon May 31 06:26:26 1999		mic>	hi all
Mon May 31 06:27:49 1999		mic>	guys, do you know how good arachne's javascript is?
Mon May 31 08:54:12 1999		ALIENX>	HELLO???
Mon May 31 08:59:05 1999		ALIENX>	well, maybe next time. alienx of alien nation SEE YA'  A.N.
Mon May 31 09:08:18 1999 http://www.angelfire.com/me2/colby		CES>	Whatever we seem to be chattin about at the time is most appropriate, but you can chat about anything here. Most of the time we chat about Arachne...
Mon May 31 18:01:14 1999 11		xchaos>	I'll be online for one more hour since now.... btw yes, it's ok to chat about anything there, of course! BTW, would you like to see some easy "who is online" detector incorporated into Arachne (of course, optional!). All Arachne users who manage to get online would be listed in some page, and you will be able to send them a simple message which would appear on their screens. The send-message interface would be CGI based, the receive-message will be incorporated into Arachne. I can create URL like online.arachne.cz. It would be so, so easy that it can appear even in 1.50 beta 3...
Mon May 31 18:05:55 1999 http://home.arachne.cz/		xchaos>	mic: there is currently no Arachne javascript ;-)
Mon May 31 18:06:30 1999 http://xch.arachne.cz/		xchaos>	Let's start REAL chat here, at least once!
Mon May 31 18:52:42 1999 http://xch.arachne.cz/		xchaos>	Nobody there :-(
Mon May 31 19:29:29 1999 http://xch.arachne.cz/		xchaos>	Still nobody.
Mon May 31 19:46:16 1999		CES>	Am I here in time?
Mon May 31 20:58:18 1999 http://xch.arachne.cz/		xchaos>	Yes... but not me ;-)
Mon May 31 20:58:53 1999 http://xch.arachne.cz/		xchaos>	Something should be done about this... or we will have to rename it to bbs.arachne.cz :-(
Mon May 31 20:59:48 1999 http://xch.arachne.cz/		xchaos>	Good bye.