| Tue Feb 1 00:22:14 2000 | Jake> | WinterKnight: I tried with Opera, IE3 and WS_FTP The modem flashes but no data arrives. Could you mail it to me, please? | |
| Tue Feb 1 01:38:38 2000 | lider> | hello in night:-) iounN | |
| Tue Feb 1 01:41:42 2000 | Bob-bo> | lider, Hello, it is 19:40 here | |
| Tue Feb 1 07:05:30 2000 http://www.lphs.school.nz/ | The Dude> | Well Jake, I downloaded it fine. It took a while to reply - how long did you wait? I could upload it to my webpage & you could get it from there... | |
| Tue Feb 1 13:19:46 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't been on for almost a month. I've been doing too much non-computer stuff to worry about you :) But as I type I'm downloading all the messages from this, to take the January 2000 messages to add to my archive. (Which is not linked from anywhere yet) From now on I will check everyday and take the messages so I won't have to download the entire lot :) BTW, I made a HTML file and in Netscape went "Save Link As..." and saved it. it was http://chat.arachne.cz/?VIEW=0 This will get every message, BTW. Unfortunately anything other than what is included in the Show xx messages box will be ignored. :( My Netscape is screwy. For some reason everything is now in Comic Sans MS, but with the headings as Haettenschweiler. Strange Stuff doing on in the land of W95. (I setup Haettenschweiler as the Titlebars but now it seems to be in Times New Roman) | |
| Tue Feb 1 13:32:20 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Oops, correction: I should have said I made the HTML file with: <a href="http://chat.arachne.cz/?VIEW=0">Download All Arachne Chats</a> | |
| Tue Feb 1 20:05:49 2000 | Jacky> | Hi! Sorry, i'm speak only Russian. Do You speak Russian? | |
| Tue Feb 1 21:33:47 2000 | Jake> | Jacky: sorry, I never studied my father's 78rpm Russian Linguaphone course! The Dude: I just gave it 4 minutes and still no transfer started for the spreadsheet ... so if you could upload it, I'd be grateful. Shall I upload Win3.11 and have a run-in with the men in dark glasses? \0 | : ( /0 | |
| Tue Feb 1 21:45:50 2000 | Bob-bo> | Jacky, Watch for Vlad to come on, he's Russian. | |
| Tue Feb 1 22:33:30 2000 | gregy> | Hoody...I asked Robin, again, to have someone pull the 1999 messages off, but it still has not been done....i can get the whole thing down using MzIE....if you want any help, let me know ....if you get busy with school, let me know, and I will keep temporary watch on it for you, like pull 49, once or twice a day..... | |
| Tue Feb 1 22:40:09 2000 | Jake> | Yeah gregy, I did that all last year, but never stitched the pages together. It would make sense to do it now IF the old stuff isn't pulled. Did you try a Custom Install of M$IE to see if just the dialer could be installed? | |
| Tue Feb 1 22:49:56 2000 | gregy> | Hi.....!....Jake....!.....I didn't see you on here before.....I was just pulling 49 down for reference....I wanted to reply to the guy who had the "no install" blurb from his OEM CDROM .....I did a custom install, but installed all except for the java....I first did the default "all" install, but it quit when it got to the disk 4, java install, so, to complete a good install, I had to back up and do a custom without java, then it installed okay......I actually found the install to go very very smooth, once I got used to the Mz style again <g g g> | |
| Tue Feb 1 22:52:27 2000 | gregy> | It started right up, and dialed out and got my ISP and connected right up....I was impressed with what a sharpy installler I am...<g g g> | |
| Tue Feb 1 22:54:34 2000 | gregy> | Jacky.....we have several Russians on this chat, and you are always welcome to practice your engliah on the rest of us...<g> ...be certain that what you say is completely understood by us...if we do not understand, then we will ask you to clear it up....do not be shy........<vbg> | |
| Tue Feb 1 22:58:09 2000 | gregy> | Boy...Jake...this chat is lightning fast tonight ....it's pouring down on my box lickety-split | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:00:29 2000 | YoYo> | Speaking about english, what is lickety-split? | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:12:28 2000 | gregy> | Hi...YoYo.....lickety-split....well, lick something, and you leave spit on it, and it is slick and fast....???? lickety-split is the "high class" way of saying lickety-spit....<g> | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:13:25 2000 | Jake> | Lickety-split? Sounds like something that happens in Amsterdam! Actually = fast. Gregy: I didn't like M$ mail -- I use FoxMail | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:13:44 2000 | gregy> | YoYo.......are you getting real fast d/l from this chat, too...??? | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:14:54 2000 | Jake> | Well YoYo you got 2 or more answers for the price of 1 | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:16:18 2000 | gregy> | Jake...I do not like MzMail, at all, especially all that "automatic" junk....I want to control when/if I d/l my mail, not have my choices preempted....etc.....but the install went fine and all I have to do is go back and get it again, so I get a good disk4-java d/l | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:18:27 2000 | gregy> | Yeh..and they mean the same thing....that is one nice thing about enlish | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:19:47 2000 | Jake> | Yep -- first I got the whole caboodle, then decided I didn't like Mail, so went back for the version without. Stupid really, because there's the Custom Install. Hans-Jeurgen is off the Mail List now, but asked the sys reqs and is going to try it on a 386. | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:21:34 2000 | Jake> | Seamus Heaney the Irish poet has won a literature prize for an adaptation of Beowulf. | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:21:36 2000 | gregy> | Re...the chat archive.....I really don't care if Robin pulls the 1999 messages or not, now that I/ve got my W98 box back in the house, and just about to start firing it up again....I had to let it set for 24 hours to warm everything up before firing it up....it was in "cold" storage.....<g> | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:24:45 2000 | gregy> | I don't know James Heaney...but I will note his name, and keep an eye out for his beowulf...I did something for one of my advanced English courses in College about it....I'll have to dig it out again, now that you have reawakened my interest. | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:28:11 2000 | gregy> | Jake....BTW.....I am just going to leave it all on the W31 box, and install NetNav on it, also, and it should work, using the same tcpip stack, and dialer, etc....I will let you know how it comes out......but first I have to go back and get a good, complete d/l....I'll use billy's own Ie to d/l it.....<g> | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:32:36 2000 | gregy> | actually, ..that is a lie....my w31 box, isnt'// I have so many OS on all my boxes, I cannot keep track of them (another lie.....<g>)....but the w31 box, is my main box.....DRDOS/w31/OS2/Linux ...the w98 box, is actually w95/w98...etc...with NT40 going on it soon...... | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:35:35 2000 | YoYo> | Thanks for the english lesson. I have no fast d/l's here. This page hangs my browser (Arachne 16b1) to often. | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:36:27 2000 | gregy> | Jake....I am sure you do this, also, but I am mentioning it for TAG.....when I do a reinstall of anything, I completely wipe the old one off (usually just xcopy everything to a zip drive, or into a subdirectory) then reinstall...I have had some real problems because some customers come to me with boxes they (or their guru) have reinstalled "over" an old install of w95/w98 or whatever......cannot be done, without buying some "real cute" problems... | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:39:03 2000 | gregy> | YoYo.....maybe I am getting fast d/l because I am "7 message" downloading.....??....but this 160b1 I find to be really fast, usually....what are you running yours on.....???? | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:43:31 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, my favorite machine is a 486DX2-80, 40 MB RAM (Vdisk of 16 MB), 6.4 GB HDD, DR-DOS 7.03, ISDN. It is reasonable fast, but some times I have to write everything 2 or 3 times because this page is not bugfree (it freezes my browser). | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:44:03 2000 | gregy> | Re....Hans-Jeurgen....I just told him today that I would keep an eye opened and inform him when the 160b2 is put up...he is smart, and has not yet d/l the b1....he has a time-lag problem on his mail, so it is a little hard for him to keep up with the list | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:44:28 2000 11 | Jake> | The dialer will work with any Win3.1x browser -- just check the box so IE doesn't auto-start. The NNs are at ftp://archive:oldies@archive.netscape.com/archive/index.html but A couldn't display that page when I looked. Caverge likes NN2 (it was blocked from many sites when I tried it). If been having fun at http://www.AcronymFinder.com/ -- they do abbreviations also, and I wanted to submit Australia for OZ, but the form requires Java. Dunno what's up with FTP for me -- couldn't get the Netscape page for the direct URLs to NN2 & 3 | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:49:41 2000 7 | gregy> | YoYo....this may surprise you, but MY main box is a Cyrix 486dlc-40MHz, 32Mbyte(16Mb RAMDsk), dual 2.5Gb HD, DRDOS60, 33.6Kb modem....I get sometimes, a "nose-bump" on this page...that means that two of us try to access/write at the same time, and I end up with an lot of #END#END tags on the chat.arachne.cz URL, the it beeps, and jams up....I do not think it has actually frozen my machine, though.... | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:51:22 2000 11 | Jake> | With new Arachne installs I rename the original directory and put the new version in C:\arachne but yep the new Windows stuff takes over. I've heard someone say W2K is very stable (for M$), ...but all that RAM! Oh Gregy, it's Seamus (pron. Shaymuss) Heaney. | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:53:53 2000 11 | Jake> | The guy Solway from Oz with ViewHTML (link at http://switch.to/arachne) has a duplicates finder -- I think it's just for DLLs. | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:54:28 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, it's Arachne 16b1 who causes the trouble. 15rc was much slower, but MUCH more reliable. | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:56:41 2000 7 | gregy> | Jake......that is JAMES.....that is the gaelic james....Seamus....EEYAAMUS.....<g> I have lots of Irish friends...they TOLD me....<g g g> | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:58:46 2000 7 | gregy> | Irish can be rather emphatic when they are trying to pound a thought into you head.... I learned....<g> | |
| Tue Feb 1 23:59:27 2000 | YoYo> | Anyway, the iNet is very slow. Maybe my d/l's are fast: 1 MB in 2.5 min. Copying on HD is about 1 MB in 2.5 sec. So what's fast, ey. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:03:11 2000 7 | gregy> | yep...I have already messed up on that, so I will probably do a complete reinstall, to get it "just so", but the dialer should work..I actually configured 2-each dialers, and played with it some, then did the dumb thing and clicked the "yes" for default browser...I am not going to try to change it...I'll just wipe and reinstall completely...after that, it should all work with the NN308....NnavorCom whichever I decide to install "for good" ... another <vbg> | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:06:04 2000 7 | gregy> | for all my OEMs, I make my customers specify that they do a dual install, put the whole thing in a second subdirectory for subsequent reinstall.....that way the OEM doen not have to mess around with lost keys, etc, and having me on the phone bending their mind....they do not really want to see me coming with a glint in my eye.....<g> | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:07:18 2000 11 | Jake> | "James" won't get you the book! 1MB in 10 minutes if I'm lucky. Dunno if it's the old UART or the old phone line. Theres www.internethypergate.com for satellite ISP with 4MB/s Not yet running, maybe very commercial, but FREE dish, card etc. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:10:28 2000 | Jake> | Just seen Gary Bower failing to flip a pancake on the news. "Is this candidate still standing?" :-) | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:10:52 2000 7 | gregy> | YoYo......I am sorry to hear that...the 150src was very stable, but this 160 is more so, and is much faster for me....of course, I run it from a RAMDsk (which I load at startup) and I have my mail/cookies/hotkeys/history pointed at some subdirectories on my HDDsk, so everything is kept permanently when I exit my RAMdsk Arachne, and it really zooms....... | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:12:11 2000 | Jake> | -- and the mousie scurries around more quickly | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:15:21 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, Why do you keep the cookies. Do things run faster if you save them? (I keep them on the Vdisk). | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:17:13 2000 7 | gregy> | Gary has a message that needs to be stated...I do not think he has any chance of succeding, but he needs to say what he is saying....also Alan Keyes....and Bill Bradley.....we need to hear the less well known side of things, and, of course, out national news media are so far knee-jerk, reactionary, left-wing, liberal that they poo-poo, and denigrate everyone who is not their "darling" candidate.....i.e. the front runners.... | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:18:18 2000 | YoYo> | BTW, I run Arachne from HD, cookies, history and cache.idx on Vdisk, Cachedir on Vdisk, Cache2tmp (temp on Vdisk), D/l and mail on HD. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:21:36 2000 7 | gregy> | YoYo....cookies...I do not know, for sure, but if you watch your bottom status bar while you are d/l, you will see them being asked for many times.....I suspect that some sites will not complete the page d/l, or will slow it down, if you cannot give them the proper cookies...so, I keep them all....and the sites that have "stuck" on my d/l before, do not seem to "stick" the second time around......that is just my own opinion...(but not "humble" opinion...<g>) | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:22:02 2000 | Jake> | Dunno anything about Gary B's message -- they only showed the pancake episode. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:23:48 2000 | Jake> | My own site sends cookies. Dunno what they're needed for. And wouldn't know about them w/o A's status-bar. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:25:46 2000 | YoYo> | Nice conversation about the pancake's. Is this about another US-politician? | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:28:59 2000 7 | gregy> | Yes,...that is about the way I run my Arachne... everything, TEMP included, on RAMDsk, except the mail goes into \ARRMAIL and the history/ hotkeys/cookies go into \ARSYS both on the HDDsk....I suppose, for a little more speed, I could point the cookies at the RAMDsk, and then "save" them when I exit, and "load" them again when I launch Arachne, again, but I find that the cookies seem to come off my HD fast enough, so that I am not slowing my d/l down ....what do you think, Jake..?? | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:31:58 2000 | Jake> | YoYo -yep. He was surrounded by packets of "Bisquick" pancake mix, tossed a pancake, didn't catch it and fell back through the stage curtains behind him. UK party leader Neil Kinnock was shown running along the beach once, impressing his wife & TV cameras -- until he tripped over. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:32:15 2000 7 | gregy> | YoYo......yes...Gary Bauer is a right-wing, conservative, christian spokesman, who is in the Republican Party primary race....that side of the political spectrum does not get any kind of "real" coverage in our press....just the scoffing and denigrating type of coverage that Jake saw on his TV | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:40:23 2000 | Jake> | Re RAMdrive -- I only ever tried it when I was flying in Red Baron a lot. Until recently, keeping and going through the cache were important but time consuming tasks for me (hence my use of ViewHTML). I find A just too slow to use regularly, so maybe better use of my 12MB is called for, or is it that the usual big-biz pages are a leap away from what A is meant for? Also I really need to use 2 - 4 windows of info when I surf. Heck, I must be a multi-tasker (usually have pooter, TV and radio all on at the same time). | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:50:15 2000 | Jake> | Gregy, I doubt The Dude will see my request for the Win3.1x Excel compatible spreadsheet I've not been able to download. It's less than 1MB. Any chance of you nabbing it and mailing to me? ftp://ftp.agoron.com/vendor/sphygmic/SSSHEET.ZIP | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:51:09 2000 | Jake> | Or maybe that request should go to YoYo with the ISDN :-) | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:51:51 2000 | YoYo> | Cookies on Vdisk make things (a little bit) faster. See you later, did have 2 xswap-messages on this page in last 10 min. Pop-server does not work either. Go play games and check the web later. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:52:57 2000 | YoYo> | Jake, I'll try it. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:55:35 2000 | gregy> | Jake...I sometimes, when I am not expecting to d/l a 5Mb+ page, reduce my RAMDsk to 8Mb from 12Mb and Arachne runs fine in that, no real effect that I can see.....now, for most things, I run this speedy little spyder, and CERTAINLY for mail...and that is why I wanted the w31 up and running on this box, because if I run into some "big business" type hoi-poloi, I can drop out quick, reboot quick into w31, and run the bigger Nav or (surprisingly) MzIE at the large garbage page that is frustrating me.....BUT, I need the multitasking, too, so I am going to set all this up to run under my OS/2, then I will have the "best-of-all" worlds. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:56:30 2000 | YoYo> | Jake, the address does not excist. | |
| Wed Feb 2 00:58:17 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, DR-DOS 7.03 has multi-tasking as well. Bye. | |
| Wed Feb 2 01:01:00 2000 | gregy> | Jake.....I'll go get it.....be back in a bit... | |
| Wed Feb 2 01:02:04 2000 | Jake> | Oh shux you multi-booter! Must admit that collecting mail is a goodun. But the 250kB digests I get open much faster in Windows, and composing mail is easier with Doze. Having followed Net development in Africa, they'll be getting faster PCs than mine. As King Michael realizes, prices are falling faster than anticipated. I hope he catches some of the wave for phones & PDAs. | |
| Wed Feb 2 01:05:11 2000 | Jake> | I got the address from http://www.sphygmic.com/sssheet.htm but couldn't D/L. Checked at FTP-search on www.alltheweb.com and it says the file is there, but still couldn't D/L. WinterKnight and The Dude both say they've got it. | |
| Wed Feb 2 01:23:32 2000 | YoYo> | Jake, check your mail. The address was right. I hope the mail is alright, I never used that account, but the other is down right now. | |
| Wed Feb 2 01:25:25 2000 | dee> | hello how do you do this? | |
| Wed Feb 2 01:33:42 2000 | Bob-bo> | dee, just put up any comment or question that you want. This isn't a real time back and forth chat. By the way, welcome | |
| Wed Feb 2 02:09:28 2000 | gregy> | Hi....Bob-bo......JAKE.....I just sent it, but it's a long un....so might take a few minutes to get there......I don't know why you couldn't FTP it....it was right there when I got down to its level....but, there is a strange server.... you give it the "ls" and it ONLY shows files.. not any subdirectories....hou have to navigate blind..... | |
| Wed Feb 2 02:12:10 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo.......how are you this evening...??? ....are you guys all dug out from the big storm, or did it immediately start to gush...? <g> | |
| Wed Feb 2 02:15:28 2000 | gregy> | Jake.......I wouldn't ever mess with all that stuff, except, my customers are running all manner of stuff, and I just can't say, "Sorry, (you sorry sods) I don't touch that stuff." ...so, I poke my nose into about every OS there is.... | |
| Wed Feb 2 02:20:42 2000 | gregy> | YoYo.......I've got DRDOS703, just d/l it the other day for a customers new box....so I will see what it looks like.....I am ssoooooo atuned to my DRDOS60 that I really don't think I will switch...because, when I want/need the multi- "do-it-all-at-once" stuff, I use my OS/2.... right now, I am switching around all my boxes so that I can arrive at the "perfect" <g> setup, and when I am done, my OS/2 will launce all of this stuff, except the Linux, W95/98, and NT things.. | |
| Wed Feb 2 03:17:02 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, it's multi-tasking, not multi-windows, you must use a hotkey to switch between tasks. If you run so many OSes, you don't need it. | |
| Wed Feb 2 04:32:53 2000 | Bob-bo> | gregy, frozen slush, a couple inches deep | |
| Wed Feb 2 04:43:14 2000 | Jake> | YoYo, Gregy: thanks very much for the spreadsheet. ;-) | |
| Wed Feb 2 05:59:05 2000 | gregy> | YoYo.......oh....it must be the old DRDOS TaskMax task manager...yes...probably somewhat improved, too......that thing is the way I want to multitask <g>....it is like the old Software Carosel program.. | |
| Wed Feb 2 06:01:25 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo......that's what I was afraid you were going to say....when are you guys going to get back to a normal winter....???? <g> Anyway it is filthy stuff to drive/walk in....be careful..... | |
| Wed Feb 2 06:07:39 2000 | gregy> | YoYo.....I run "ssooooo many OSs" because other people who depend upon my expertise are running SSsssooooooo many other garbage bins....I do not normally use a GUI...when I want to manage files I WILL be my own "file manager"....<egotistical grin>....and I almost never run two things at one time.....my OS/2 is the primary GUI that I run, with command-line tools setup at instant accessibility, and my OS/2 sessions/windows are all set up so that they do NOT run in the background.....the sole exception being printer que/spooling..... | |
| Wed Feb 2 06:11:43 2000 | gregy> | ....if I run so many other OSs....I probably need the tranquility of the single-window interface......that is one reason I like Arachne so much...things only happen when I want them to happen....not underneath/behind-my-back <g> | |
| Wed Feb 2 06:58:17 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, I used most of the OSes as well. Glad to here you feel the same about it. But I did quit my business, so I have only DRDOS installed on a 486, it's all I need! | |
| Wed Feb 2 09:31:11 2000 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ | WinterKnight> | I'll be frank, I really like multi-tasking. I just cant do one thing at one time. I have to distribute my concentration to focus.. :) (not just with computers, but with everything.) Also, I like CLI, but I dont think that there's anything bad about GUI if you do it right, and use it where you need it. GUI is just another type of interface. I think that most of the people here hate GUI because MS tried to push it too far.. (GUI for everything. Thats a bad thing. Then again, CLI for everything is also bad: try to use a graphic design program like Paint Shop Pro using only commands...) My opinion? there is no "good" and "bad" option. It all depends on how, and where you implement it.. and if you really need it there! :) | |
| Wed Feb 2 17:26:53 2000 | Bob-bo> | Experts, my first XT came with Digital Researech DRDOS 5.0. Is this the same DRDOS that now belongs to Lineo or somebody. The thing I liked about DRDOS 5.0 was that the left arrow key was non-destructive, you could make an error on the command line and go back and fix it. | |
| Wed Feb 2 19:59:50 2000 | Lunar> | Bob-bo: Left arrow works that way in MS-DOS 6.x if you load DOSKEY. Not that I am a Gates fan ;-) | |
| Wed Feb 2 20:18:41 2000 | Bob-bo> | Lunar, Thanks a lot. I'm always dealing with used stuff and hand-me-downs and I never have books or docs. Never new what DOSKEY did. | |
| Wed Feb 2 23:10:31 2000 | Lunar> | Also up arrow will recall previous command, assigns various actions to F1 through F9, lets you make and run macris. | |
| Wed Feb 2 23:16:28 2000 | YoYo> | Bob-bo, You can d/l free small TSR on SimTel or Garbo, called DOSED: commandline history and editing. | |
| Wed Feb 2 23:19:24 2000 | YoYo> | Bob-bo, I use a BATch-file at boot-time to define keys with the prompt-command. E.g. if I want to use Arachne, I use Alt-W. | |
| Wed Feb 2 23:30:33 2000 | YoYo> | That's http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/keyboard/dosed500.zip 8680 bytes. | |
| Thu Feb 3 00:35:57 2000 | dee> | hello | |
| Thu Feb 3 00:36:35 2000 | dee> | somebody help me out here | |
| Thu Feb 3 00:37:10 2000 | dee> | how do you do this | |
| Thu Feb 3 01:31:28 2000 | Jake> | Who you trying to kid Dee? | |
| Thu Feb 3 01:38:55 2000 | Bob-bo> | dee, come on in, we're just a bumch of good old boys that play around with computers | |
| Thu Feb 3 01:42:27 2000 | Jake> | Hi Bob-bo. I'm not sure if Dee wants advice on the Chat or what. If you see this Dee, please ask us something specific. The answer is bound to be 42 ;-) | |
| Thu Feb 3 01:43:46 2000 | Bob-bo> | YoYo, I'm so old fashioned that I don't mind doing CD\etc. I call my Arachne directory C:\NET, because Arachne is too hard to spell. | |
| Thu Feb 3 01:46:36 2000 | Bob-bo> | JAke, Guess I'm out of the modern loop, do you think that "dee" is not a DOS geek? | |
| Thu Feb 3 02:28:22 2000 | Jake> | If it weren't for my downloads going to month/day subdirectories of C:\A I'd have Arachne in there. Well I could in any case, but at the moment I settle for renaming that 100 byte file to a.bat to launch the good ship Arachne. CES didn't think too much to being called "Old Bean" -- he must be 14 now, so there are keepers of the flame. | |
| Thu Feb 3 02:39:03 2000 | Sabrina> | I need to chat with someone will someone chat with me? | |
| Thu Feb 3 02:40:24 2000 | Sabrina> | hello anyone please help me please | |
| Thu Feb 3 02:40:49 2000 | Sabrina> | PLEEEEEEEESSSSSSEEEEEEEEE | |
| Thu Feb 3 02:47:27 2000 | Jake> | Chat away Sabrina (but less shouting please!) | |
| Thu Feb 3 03:37:41 2000 | tmptmp> | Sabrina, what do need help with? | |
| Thu Feb 3 03:39:27 2000 | Jake> | Hi tmptmp. A voice in the wilderness. | |
| Thu Feb 3 03:42:12 2000 | Jake> | IBM should release a Linux laptop soon, tmptmp. | |
| Thu Feb 3 04:40:30 2000 | Bob-bo> | dee, please answer Sabrina | |
| Thu Feb 3 07:09:16 2000 http://www.lphs.school.nz/ | The Dude> | I have a Sabrina in my class at school for the first time ever. I was rather impressed. | |
| Thu Feb 3 08:47:55 2000 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ | WinterKnight> | Bob-bo, Lineo is Caldera. Their embadded devices devision have changed their name. | |
| Thu Feb 3 08:49:51 2000 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ | WinterKnight> | How about asking xChaos to change the name of this place from "chat" to "webboard" so people would stop thinking that this is a real-time chat?.. (like what just happened with Sabrina, and tons of other people..) | |
| Thu Feb 3 11:12:11 2000 | soojin> | Hello, every one! How are you? Dirty sites go too far.B-( The day after tomorrow is the lunar New Year's day, a holiday for us Koreans. | |
| Thu Feb 3 12:30:44 2000 | Vlad> | Its seems bad - Arachne still not yet support download resume; so what is your opinion - is this necesary - to resume downloads? | |
| Thu Feb 3 12:59:13 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | Hi anybody - I downloaded the 1.6 version of Arachne yesterday and my ******* computer crashed after the dopwnload but before the "save" bit.. I fished out the cache version, renamed it and tried extracting it. It nearly worked except that I could not change video resolution and the clickon function would not work past threee quarters of the way down the page, makeing the install quite useless!! Any comments? | |
| Thu Feb 3 13:14:26 2000 | Vlad> | Kali, it suxx! | |
| Thu Feb 3 13:48:01 2000 | YoYo> | Kali, if you have an older version, copy the file arachne.pck in the new version and try it out. | |
| Thu Feb 3 15:56:09 2000 11 | Hoody> | This is getting quite busy!! The January 2000 archive has been uploaded to the URL to the left. I downloaded Opera for this 486SX running W95 (it does have 16MB RAM). I can't get Arachne to work in anything other than EGA mode. But I think the video card just doesn't like the monitor. No program will work with standard VGA modes. I am running W95 in 24 bit colour mode, BTW. (640x480) Opera is a lot faster than the Netscape Communicator I'd been using. :) | |
| Thu Feb 3 15:56:54 2000 http://arachne.virtualave.net/cacz.pl | Hoody> | That link should be: http://arachne.virtualave.net/cacz.pl Don't know what happens WRT that 11 :( | |
| Thu Feb 3 16:01:40 2000 http://hoody.virtualave.net/cgi-bin/showlog.pl | Hoody> | See Who Visits http://hoody.virtualave.net!!! List of browsers and other things. Too many are Search Engines though. :( | |
| Thu Feb 3 16:12:29 2000 | YoYo> | Hoody, thanks, but... couldn't you zip it or tell about the size (450 Kb). | |
| Thu Feb 3 16:16:11 2000 http://hoody.virtualave.net/ | Hoody> | That script above only shows who/what/when visited the starting page of my site (which is also where http://i.am/hoody directs to) | |
| Thu Feb 3 16:21:16 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | YoYo: Oh yeah. Hmmm Did you all know that the January archive is a lot bigger than the other months? And there has been more than 50 messages in one day this month already... 183,272 01-02-00 1:21a chat0299.html 197,877 01-02-00 1:21a chat0399.html 132,513 01-02-00 1:21a chat0499.html 195,720 01-02-00 1:21a chat0599.html 176,885 01-02-00 1:21a chat0699.html 208,665 01-02-00 1:21a chat0799.html 132,666 01-02-00 1:22a chat0899.html 142,310 01-02-00 1:22a chat0999.html 132,165 01-02-00 1:22a chat1099.html 137,000 01-02-00 1:22a chat1199.html 170,019 01-02-00 1:22a chat1299.html 810 02-01-00 10:41p index.html 462,026 02-01-00 10:47p chat0100.html | |
| Thu Feb 3 16:27:16 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | I know that Netscape will accept a file zipped with gzip and if the headers are right it will show it as if it was text. (ie built-in unzipping) How could one do this with Arachne? I could write a CGI script to do this... I could also do the zipping/unzipping on the fly so I wouldn't need to fill up the 20MB I can use on virtualave... :) I doubt gzip would be on that server, so I might have to find a perl version of it? hmmmm | |
| Thu Feb 3 16:27:35 2000 | Stef.> | Hoody: i think january is so big 'cause of all the seasons greetings... | |
| Thu Feb 3 16:49:34 2000 | Bob-bo> | Kali, Same problem, the TAB key quits on the page with the Video stuff, arrow keys don't work. I'm happy with 1.48b with mods. | |
| Thu Feb 3 19:28:12 2000 | tmptmp> | xChaos, there's an very interesting bug in 1.6 If I change the content in the history file then start up Arachne and use the arrow keys to go backwards through the history file at some point a program is started that give the message: insert your mail floppy disk into drive A: press any key to continue. . . The only way to get out of it this is to close the computer with cntr alt delete. A few times it has gotten out with 'abort' or 'fail' which is the response to not having a floppy called mail in A | |
| Thu Feb 3 23:21:56 2000 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ | WinterKnight> | tmptmp, how about CTRL+C? Hoody, I have no idea how this is started to happen.. (re: more messages then before). | |
| Fri Feb 4 00:15:40 2000 | Jake> | Re: number of messages -- I'm one of the talkative ones. Mainly because my visits coincide with the usual visiting times of some others, and we agreed that the Chat could be just that: maintain a sense of decorum but as long as it's not innane drivel we can talk about anything. Naturally we have a PC bias here, and language can be a problem, but as we get to know each other I'm sure this forum can only increase in value to each of us. | |
| Fri Feb 4 00:53:43 2000 | Bob-bo> | Jake, nice philosophy. gregy, are you in Billimgs? others, I agree, "Quick Chat" is a misnomer. | |
| Fri Feb 4 01:59:00 2000 | tmptmp> | WinterKnight, yes CTRL+C works too. I wonder which new feature this little program is and how one would get to it if it was wanted and why its set off in the history file. | |
| Fri Feb 4 09:33:39 2000 | soojin> | WinterKnight! Thank you for CTRL+C. | |
| Fri Feb 4 12:49:10 2000 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ | WinterKnight> | tmptmp, the feature that give you this problem sounds like the new "mail diskette" feature. Its seposed to allow you to move your mail messages from one copy of Arachne to another: For example, if you got Arachne at home and work, and you dont have time to read the mail at home, you can download the mail at your home computer, move it to a diskette, and then read it at work. You can, ofcourse, do it manualy with all the versions of Arachne, but (if I got it correctly) this new feature should allow this to be performed automaticly. Ofcourse, I could be wrong and this might be a totally diffrant feature. :) That feature is new on 1.60a. Look at "changes.txt". (xChaos mentioned that he putted lots of new features/suprises in 1.60a. And yep. Thats one, long list.. :) | |
| Fri Feb 4 15:07:35 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Yes indeedy.... I have installed 1.6b1, but only because I had to :( I run Arachne on my laptop and had turned the power off (forgetting that the laptop was still on). The battery only has about 1 minute worth of charge, and as I was quickly exiting Arachne (1.50.s.r.c.) it turned off. Tonight I just turned it on and Arachne crashed. ScanDisk found problems with 5 (!) Arachne files (cookies.lst, history.lst, cache.idx, arachne.pck and smtp.log) I wouldn't think an unexpected turnoff would affect this many files. I couldn't be bothered to figure out what was wrong, and had just downloaded 1.6b1 so decided it was time to upgrade anyway. :) BTW: I couldn't select the VGA colour mode when the VESA mode was selected as 800x600. I had the set the white-backgrounded selection as 640x480 for my standard VGA to work. | |
| Fri Feb 4 16:23:23 2000 | Bob-bo> | tmptm, I think that when you use Cntrl Left Arrow you are backing up i CACHE by way of CACHE.IDX not the same a HISTORY.LST | |
| Fri Feb 4 18:55:28 2000 | tmptmp> | Bob-bo, actually it is the history list. I remove all duplication and put it in alphabetical order with Z from xtgold. WinterKnight, Ahh... Thanks. | |
| Fri Feb 4 18:56:03 2000 | tmptmp> | Bob-bo, its the history list that keeps track of what's in the cache | |
| Fri Feb 4 20:56:17 2000 | tmptmp> | Bob-bo, actually there are three files involved with keeping track of what's been read at any particular time. History.lst CAche.idx and arachne.pck. if you want to save a particular session on-line just save those three files and everything in cache directory. You will be able to recreate that session any time you want. Of course you will have to put the files back in their proper directory. | |
| Fri Feb 4 21:18:57 2000 11 | Bob-bo> | tmptmp, I was thinking about your problem, if you've cleaned CACHE recently, the URLs are still there but the stuff is gone, thought maybe that was why 1.6 told you to put in a floppy | |
| Fri Feb 4 23:59:39 2000 | tmptmp> | Bob-bo its just a bug in 1.6. What I'm doing should not set that program off. | |
| Sat Feb 5 00:02:17 2000 | tmptmp> | Xchaos, In 1.6 if you leave a page, mid-page, and return to it later it goes to the top of the page rather than where you left off. Better in earlier versions when it went back to where it was left. Hope the 'improvement' was not intentional. ;> | |
| Sat Feb 5 00:08:33 2000 http://www.lphs.school.nz/ | The Dude> | Hoody, you probably could have gotten along OK even if you didn't have those files.. I think they're non-essential.. but welcome to the world of 1.60, anyway! | |
| Sat Feb 5 01:16:25 2000 | tmptmp> | Hoody, history.lst, cache.idx and arachne.pck regenerate themselves. Just erase the ones that are there and Arachne will make new ones. | |
| Sat Feb 5 01:17:19 2000 | tmptmp> | Now I'm going to so and check that so as not to make too much of a fool of myself. | |
| Sat Feb 5 01:22:13 2000 | tmptmp> | Hoody, tis true. | |
| Sat Feb 5 01:26:19 2000 | tmptmp> | Jake, hi. | |
| Sat Feb 5 01:54:56 2000 | Bob-bo> | I keep all of those files on D: ram drive, so when I pull the big switch there gone | |
| Sat Feb 5 05:42:29 2000 http://www.lphs.school.nz/ | The Dude> | I've only ever seen one computer with a big red switch. I can see why they called it that. | |
| Sat Feb 5 05:48:35 2000 | starchild> | Greetings | |
| Sat Feb 5 05:50:44 2000 | starchild> | I am intrested in coding a java chat client plugin for arachne and was wondering where would I go for info. Could you help? | |
| Sat Feb 5 05:54:08 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo.....no, I am in Havre, MT, about 250miles N/NW of Billings.... ...BTW....re: C:\net....I call mine, "a(.bat)." <vbg> | |
| Sat Feb 5 05:57:55 2000 | gregy> | Starchild....I don't think, given the DOS 640K limits, that you will succeed, but you might try a DGI chat client for Arachne.....until some java support is included in/plugged-in for Arachne, you cannot get it to work a java chat ...I find this problem all the time on my Yahoo account... | |
| Sat Feb 5 08:08:11 2000 http://www.lphs.school.nz/ | The Dude> | starchild, adding to what gregy said, xchaos thinks that the DOS version of arachne will probably never support java. I don't need it, anyway. | |
| Sat Feb 5 10:35:51 2000 http://http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | Seal 1A is released!! Now it has an HTML viewer, mp3/mp2 and a wav player. For changes look at http://www.home.sk/public/seal/changes.htm | |
| Sat Feb 5 11:02:08 2000 http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | Now I write the right adress :-) | |
| Sat Feb 5 11:20:40 2000 | Jondo> | Hi everyone. When using version 1.60 of Arachne the text in the url field appears black against a black background. Is this happening to anyone else? | |
| Sat Feb 5 14:09:44 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | Hi: has anyone else had weird problems setting up 1.6 without a mouse? the tab only takes you halfway down a page and then you cant select anything! | |
| Sat Feb 5 15:08:01 2000 | Jake> | Jondo: download Hoody's January archive of this chat from http://arachne.virtualave.net/chat.arachne.cz/chat0100.html It's nearly 500kB and you'll probably need ViewHTML from http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kevsol/sware.html#viewhtml to load and search it. Then look for what Vlad (I think) said about this problem. Otherwise wait for Gregy to tell you what the solution was. Kali: you need to speak to Caverge about problems for the mouseless. | |
| Sat Feb 5 17:52:53 2000 | YoYo> | Jondo, turn off very large fonts and fixed system font in options > preferences > font- options. Kali, it's already improved, but still not great (read the hotkeys.htm for some other helpful keys). | |
| Sat Feb 5 17:56:36 2000 | YoYo> | Tmptmp, about returning at top of page: sometimes it works normal, but most of the times I noticed the same (very annoying on e.g. SimTel). | |
| Sat Feb 5 19:15:10 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | The Dude and tmptmp: Yes I know those files can be re-created easily (done so many times for minor problems), but even after deleting them, the setup program just crashed after selecting video mode (either an alt-ctrl-del rebootable or an EMM386.EXE error #12) | |
| Sat Feb 5 20:51:41 2000 www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm | wspy> | Dr WebSpyder 2.5a: ftp://ftp.lineo.com/.private/emb25a.zip | |
| Sat Feb 5 21:06:55 2000 http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | wspy, how did you find emb25.zip If I go to this directory there is no file shown. New Seal version without some bugs :-) | |
| Sat Feb 5 21:38:04 2000 | tmptmp> | Hoody, ahh... | |
| Sat Feb 5 21:43:17 2000 | tmptmp> | Unless I missed it, othan the installer 1.6 does not have program that allows re-setup of the video mode. It could use it. | |
| Sat Feb 5 22:13:43 2000 | syn/ack> | greets everyone | |
| Sat Feb 5 22:17:57 2000 | syn/ack> | I am intrested in coding chat client (like cheetah and ychat) for an MS-DOS machine. But I am having a bit of trouble finding a tcpip library for pacific (or TC a freeware Borland turbo C compiler *IMHO is better than Pacific* , and I was wondering if anyone here could offer me some help? | |
| Sat Feb 5 22:20:17 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | If anyone has any productive suggestion concering the sbove question please contact me at beelzebub@fcmail.com | |
| Sat Feb 5 22:42:33 2000 | Bob-bo> | SooLin, Happy Year of the Dragon | |
| Sat Feb 5 22:48:35 2000 11 | The Dude> | tmptmp, you can type setup to reconfigure your video - or you can load vga.htm in the arachne directory. After you run setup it brings this file up fullscreen - if you press F5 you can see the URL. | |
| Sat Feb 5 22:51:31 2000 | tmptmp> | The Dude, thank's | |
| Sun Feb 6 00:19:44 2000 http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/ | dos_fan> | Look at: http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/ You can use it with 16-Bit and 32-Bit Compilern (like DJGPP, www.delorie.com/djgpp/) I hope this will help... | |
| Sun Feb 6 00:21:38 2000 http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/ | dos_fan> | I forgot: This information is for syn/ack :-) | |
| Sun Feb 6 01:40:40 2000 | mands> | can anyone tell me how to get irc to work I even got irc101.zip to compare or try and get it to work it didnt work for me and it looks like my arachne irc is missing something any help would be great thanks | |
| Sun Feb 6 01:44:59 2000 | Bob-bo> | Stef, whats going on in your country? Everybody seems to be un-happy with your new gov.. Mein Frau and one of das Kinder were in central Europe last yeare, much impressed with Weine and Salzburg, pleasantly surprised with Praha and Budapest, didn't think much of Bratslava, Sloviaka | |
| Sun Feb 6 01:45:58 2000 | mands> | | |
| Sun Feb 6 01:50:58 2000 | syn/ack> | dos fan: Please excuse my ignorance...but the only language I speak fluently is english. I cannot understand the contents of you web page. | |
| Sun Feb 6 01:54:48 2000 | syn/ack> | greeting and there doesn't seem to be anyone here...... If anyone is there please respond. | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:01:51 2000 | syn/ack> | mands: My IRC didn't work fir me either when I typed ..let us say "IRC://<server name here>". It did however work when I clicked the desktop Icon then the your programs Icon on the desktop. Then I just clicked on IRC.EEK and it worked fine. If U get it working type /server irc.dal.net and come chat with me in #wicca | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:02:57 2000 | syn/ack> | mands: (fir == for) && (fir !== fir) :-P | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:07:42 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | hmmmm I seem to be all alone here.... Well I should take this time to pose yet another question to U my friends in the DOS underground. Well.... here it goes . I would like to know more about netdos, I was very impressed with the animation demos that I saw there(I am running a i486DX-S 66MHz with only 16MB of ram and they were still pretty fast).. I want to know if there are more netdos demo sites around. Ty(thank you) and I appreciate the help. | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:08:25 2000 | dos_fan> | BOB-BO, you asked Stef. what's going on in his country (unhappy...). Does he come from Austria? | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:10:52 2000 | mands> | syn/ack: yes thats how I tryed it is it supposed to go to the irc window or to arachne window I didnt try irc://dal.net just the irc.eek | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:12:54 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | dos fan: I see that U have returned. I can't read the contents of you page I was wondering if the /lib file your directed me to was in english or maybe and english version( I know I know we americans are very lame). I you can help me out that would rawk. =O) | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:15:09 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | mands: It goes to the IRC window. | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:16:17 2000 | dos_fan> | I have no problem with the link I will look... | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:16:38 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | Mands: I almost forgot dude... U have to install the package manually. | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:16:54 2000 | caverge> | Kali: To fix your problems without a mouse you must install a mouse driver ! Yes. Even if you don't want to use the mouse. Ha Ha. It is being fixed. Hoody: Please inform xChaos about video setup. He has rejected my complaint on that item. (It can't happen. Who cares if it crashes when it doesn't recognize your hardware. You must be running VGA anyway if you want to run Arachne. What do you mean it starts up in 800x600 ?) Heeheeeeheeeeee. <G> | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:18:35 2000 | Bob-bo> | Afirmative, Stef lives in Austria and I think writes HTML for a living. | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:19:02 2000 http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | syn/ack, do you mean http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/ ? There I see no problem, all is English | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:19:48 2000 http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | I live also in Austria | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:21:58 2000 | caverge> | tmptmp: To re-do video setup, type setup at the DOS prompt. | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:22:37 2000 http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | bye | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:22:57 2000 | Bob-bo> | Dos fan, the hills seem to be alive with un-rest. | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:25:13 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | dos fan: My apologies.. My err I typed in "www.bgnett.no"(I excluded '/~giva') . Okay now this brings up yet another question. U see. I all ready have the wat library.. I tried to Use it with pacific C ( I suppose I just have to Use one of the compilers they sugested)... I really don't wanna download djgpp(too big) where can watcom(I believe it is called be obtained) and also is it a free compiler?? :) | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:26:49 2000 | mands> | yes I had installed it but it didnt work but just now it said its not installed when I get it ta work I'll see you on dal.net thanks I'll be back later | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:28:36 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | mands: goodbye and later. =-) | |
| Sun Feb 6 02:32:37 2000 http://www.programmersheaven.com | syn/ack> | mands: lol.. I suppose goodbye and later is a bit redundant. | |
| Sun Feb 6 03:17:38 2000 http://www.lphs.school.nz/ | The Dude> | Mands, possibly of no use but I could never get JPIRC to run via the desktop - I always had to run ip-up.bat and start JPIRC with the commandline option -GATEWAY=%REMIP% - at least I think that's the option. If gbx is here he could tell you some tips, as I talked to him a while ago about the same subject. | |
| Sun Feb 6 03:38:41 2000 | mands> | thanks The Dude but I just got it to work now another prob ircops said I have a vbs type virus and ta get out now. HELP any dos anti virus help with this ? they said go to www.nohack.net but that would be for windows right I only have dos Help me please | |
| Sun Feb 6 03:41:58 2000 | mands> | back in a bit thanks yall | |
| Sun Feb 6 04:51:55 2000 | mands> | is back | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:05:11 2000 | SYN/ACK> | has returned. | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:07:44 2000 | SYN/ACK> | is smoking a cig now .... brb. | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:12:30 2000 | SYN/ACK> | now feels sooooo. much better. | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:15:15 2000 | syn/ack> | mands: might I ask where U are from? | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:30:02 2000 | mands> | dallas | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:35:56 2000 | mands> | syn/ack: did you see that i got irc to work and that now i have another prob ,ircops said i have a vbs type virus | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:39:38 2000 | mands> | | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:40:48 2000 | syn/ack> | ????mands vbs virus??? Are U sure. | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:43:32 2000 | syn/ack> | mands: Do U have any virus detection and deletion software. U might wanna try ftp://ftp.simtel.net:21/simtel/msdos I believe.(or just do a search for a simtel server that is geographically near to U. | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:45:08 2000 | syn/ack> | mands: Dallas huh.... I am in Michigan. So what is the weather like down that way?? | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:46:40 2000 | syn/ack> | .oO(So this site is in CK. Hmmmm.... I wonder if anyone here runs Linux?) | |
| Sun Feb 6 05:48:29 2000 | syn/ack> | is pondering the eternal varieties of life the universe and U know everything. | |
| Sun Feb 6 06:13:27 2000 | mands> | yes thanks i was thinking of simtel it was 29 this morn and got up to 50 something and there are too many varieties to try and ponder | |
| Sun Feb 6 06:18:33 2000 | mands> | syn/ack: I want to learn linux. I found what seems to be a nice online course thats free | |
| Sun Feb 6 06:20:35 2000 | mands> | I know a little about unix and I do mean a little but it should help | |
| Sun Feb 6 08:05:49 2000 | Jondo> | I'm trying to figure out how to use jpirc. Can someone tell me what command to use to log on to a server? | |
| Sun Feb 6 09:20:01 2000 | sny/ack> | mands: Linux is a piece of .. It is very dos oriented. | |
| Sun Feb 6 09:20:44 2000 | sny/ack> | Linux is a piece of cake that is..... U prolly thought I meant **** :P | |
| Sun Feb 6 10:18:35 2000 | syn/ack> | I seem to be all alone here *weeps* | |
| Sun Feb 6 11:21:09 2000 | Stef.> | Bob-Bo: almost didn't catch your question, hope you remember it ;-) -- Well, i'm german. so this govenment in austria doesn't please me, but they voted that way. Let's wait and see, whether something happens - i hope all the rage slows down much. BTW: yes, i got a job, where i write HTML, but on a very low level, now. But it'll get better later on, i hope. | |
| Sun Feb 6 11:23:47 2000 | Stef.> | i'm sorry i am here not that often in the last days, but i really got heavy problems to stay connected to the web, 'cause of telephone line damage. so it's not my ISP. tomorrow someone of the phonecompany will come (hopefully) and fix it. i'll check back later... | |
| Sun Feb 6 11:26:47 2000 | Stef.> | Linux? I tryed it. And figured out i don't need it. It's perfect for always on machines running critical jobs, but i can't get used to some things and that "philosophie" behind. it's way to complicated for me. But if you got to get done something, it's the best choice, and maybe i'll go to learn it later, too. 2. try :-) | |
| Sun Feb 6 13:45:15 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/ | smithi> | Hi folks. I came to check a message from a friend, but the difference between 'last 49 messages' and 'all messages' (2.2Mb, 18 minutes) to be a bit too severe .. so I'll go. Have fun kiddies. Ian | |
| Sun Feb 6 14:04:59 2000 | syn/ack> | "Never fear for I is here." -The Plague So what's new and improved? | |
| Sun Feb 6 14:06:59 2000 | syn/ack> | Well I guess I'll go see whatz shakin on IRC later my fellow dosophiles. | |
| Sun Feb 6 14:56:03 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | caverge: Minor error. I'll get over it :) I think if you don't select a VESA mode it should just ignore that particular setting. syn/ack: Where are you? Are you able to be on the internet for long periods of time without having to pay a lot of money? ;-) FWIW I'm on IRC (dalnet #arachne) usually for at least 4 hours a day - usually starting from 10pm +1000 [1200 GMT] PS: My 3 computers on my LAN are running linux, dos and w95, respectively. :) | |
| Sun Feb 6 15:56:34 2000 | Jake> | Busy! Come on Hoody, give us a better Chat please. I mentioned ViewHTML for offline fast viewing of webpages. It didn't cope with the January Chat archive, but View will. Get it from http://mdrury.hypermart.net/view160m.zip The delay page for http://switch.to/arachne no longer works for my Arachne1.60 :-( | |
| Sun Feb 6 16:38:32 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Jake: I'm working on a CGI script that will show only a range of days you might be interested in (selected from a <form>), and also a search feature. But it will have to wait a few days, due to other commitments... Also that switch.to/arachne seems to be javascripted but atleast they have the link. (That was with Opera; looking at it with Arachne: ARGH!!!! That "click here if you don't want to wait" goes to another ad. Looking at the source and theres not even a .co.uk in there! Serious Problems. Is there another option you can use? Like have the button on your page? I know you can do this with easy.to/REMEMBER | |
| Sun Feb 6 17:53:38 2000 | mands> | can anyone tell me what a vbs type virus is and what will get remove it ? thanks | |
| Sun Feb 6 19:02:02 2000 11 | Vlad> | xChaos seems to going way of Microsoft: some functions seems to loose workness in arachne. I can't sign to VGA Planets game on this URL: http://www.centurytel.net/firefall/pljoint.htm There is some JavaScript in the page, but it's only used to check the version of the browser; so it is disfunction of arachne. It's time to set up QNX & Voyager ;) But, I'll still have DOS because of some reasons. | |
| Sun Feb 6 19:17:28 2000 | YoYo> | Jake, Drury's View cost 30 $ and he never answered my mail about registering. I splitted the chat0100-file with an ordinary text editor and added the line <table> in the second part. Now I can view them with ViewHtml. | |
| Sun Feb 6 19:22:11 2000 | YoYo> | Vlad, Arachne 16b1 is only a test version. xChaos told that on the homepage and must get feedback about all the errors to improve it. He rewrote lots of code to make it faster and that works already. Now only the bugs must be removed to make a stable release candidate. (If I understood it well). | |
| Sun Feb 6 20:06:27 2000 | Vlad> | Yoyo, sure. It's fun: arachne 1.61b1 more stable of all, but have a lot of new bugs. Arachne 1.48 had a bug, too - it coudn't view a root directory of computer - i.e. list of drives on some configurations, and there are some hidden bugs in all versions of subj I saw - 1.48, 1.50, 1.60b1 - it seems it gonna way of MSIE. It takes a half of hour to uninstall MSIE 5.0 automaticly - I did it :) So, is there some usenet group about arachne? I think, that there two ways to cath all bugs in programm - usenet reporting (e-mail reporting is unusial) and open source. Arachne seems to be a commercial product (Hm..), and sources are not available, so it must be usenet echo. I'm Fidonet member and I know what I say. | |
| Sun Feb 6 22:37:05 2000 | CES> | I never seem to come to these chat thingiez much anymore.. I used to check here and another one I visit (or rather used to visit) regularly but I don't anymore........ oh well. Well anyway... I forgot what I was gonna say but now I am gonna go... bbl! | |
| Mon Feb 7 00:38:57 2000 | Jake> | CES -- this chat has been of value to you in the recent past. Please engage brain before fingers hit the keyboard! YoYo -- View is uncrippled shareware ;-) He says send whatever you think it's worth. There are official registration links at his site. Mands -- try F-Prot antivirus. It's for DOS but kills Windows viruses. If you can't work a search engine I'll root out a link for you. Hoody -- I used to use a pop-up rather than the delay page, but found some people didn't understand a full-screen pop-up. The delay page did work with Arachne until about a week ago (or less). A few months ago you only needed to display their button on the page. You can't even set up a new service with Opera, tho' IE3 is OK. Your CGI-ing sounds good. Kudos if you get xChaos to use it, otherwise it might suddenly get rather quiet here! I had a laugh at TAG trying to break the Chat in last month's archive, until Gregy arrived on the scene. | |
| Mon Feb 7 00:43:31 2000 | Jake> | YoYo -- Drury has a VGAPAL thingy to change your DOS color scheme (Heretic!). I get a bit trippy if I use ViewHTML from Windows for a big cache-clearing session, because of going from white screen to black, to white etc. Now I can try white screen in DOS. Doesn't seem to work when you L L ViewHTML to go fullscreen... | |
| Mon Feb 7 01:48:26 2000 | gregy> | Jake.....TAG wasn't trying to "break" the chat.. ..he was just being an ordinary Quebeque Terrible Terrorist....!!!,,,,<vbg> | |
| Mon Feb 7 01:54:58 2000 7 | gregy> | I suppose everyone at arachne.cz is pretty busy so that is why the two requests I have emailed for them to pull all the 1999 messages off this chat have been ignored....but, the first time (or not too knowledgeable) visitor cannot get back to the techno-hints in the past, because they cannot d/l "all messages", and the chat archive URL is not posted anywhere.... Jake, ....I also find the switch.to jump not operational anymore, and it is NOT 160b1....I worked it fine for about a month, with this 160b1, but just about a week ago, it started endlessly cycling, and never let you do the jump.... | |
| Mon Feb 7 01:55:20 2000 | Jake> | Hi Gregy. My switch.to/arachne is buggered :-( | |
| Mon Feb 7 02:15:18 2000 | YoYo> | Jake, thanks for the info about Drury's View. I will have a look now I know he has changed his prices. The programs are good. Vlad, it are to many bugs, I agree. | |
| Mon Feb 7 02:20:40 2000 | Bob-bo> | CES, don't give up on us, we're not all on the same level, there is room for mundane stuff that I sometimes put up. We always learn. | |
| Mon Feb 7 03:04:18 2000 | syn/ack> | I would like to pose a question to the room. I sort of improvised system by combining a win98 startup disk with some biniarys from the freedos OS. I am in need of a program that is like Memmaker yet freely available. | |
| Mon Feb 7 03:07:32 2000 | syn/ack> | pose == post && edit line 2 "sort of improvised system" == "sort of improvised and operating system". | |
| Mon Feb 7 03:15:11 2000 | Jake> | CES -- this chat has been of value to you in the recent past. Please engage brain before fingers hit the keyboard! YoYo -- View is uncrippled shareware ;-) He says send whatever you think it's worth. There are official registration links at his site. Mands -- try F-Prot antivirus. It's for DOS but kills Windows viruses. If you can't work a search engine I'll root out a link for you. Hoody -- I used to use a pop-up rather than the delay page, but found some people didn't understand a full-screen pop-up. The delay page did work with Arachne until about a week ago (or less). A few months ago you only needed to display their button on the page. You can't even set up a new service with Opera, tho' IE3 is OK. Your CGI-ing sounds good. Kudos if you get xChaos to use it, otherwise it might suddenly get rather quiet here! I had a laugh at TAG trying to break the Chat in last month's archive, until Gregy arrived on the scene. | |
| Mon Feb 7 03:17:22 2000 | Jake> | Sorry about the repost -- I'd cleared Opera's cache. The old story, and I'm sticking to it. What else can I do with 3MB free on the HDD? | |
| Mon Feb 7 03:30:36 2000 | syn/ack> | Jake: Perhaps U know where I can obtain a freeware program that is like memmaker(actually anything that will give me additional EMS memory). =) | |
| Mon Feb 7 04:02:31 2000 | Jake> | syn/ack -- get in touch if you want QEMM | |
| Mon Feb 7 04:39:49 2000 | gregy> | Hi.....Jake....what do you think your SWITCH.TO is doing....???? | |
| Mon Feb 7 04:42:08 2000 | gregy> | syn/ack.....why don't you just go to lineo.com and download their DRDOS7.03.....???? You get it all when you do that, and it is free...you just cannot expliot it for commercial purposes. | |
| Mon Feb 7 05:21:05 2000 | Bigboy> | sys/ack.. You can get bootMagic or System Commander multiple boot fixs lots of problems | |
| Mon Feb 7 06:40:08 2000 | Vlad> | YoYo, it seems that there are only test & beta versions of arachne. Where are stable versions? | |
| Mon Feb 7 06:59:02 2000 | syn/ack> | gregy I went to lineo.com and I didn't actually see anything about downloading dr-dos and also I was wondering if anyone knew anything about Open dos and where can it be obtained. | |
| Mon Feb 7 07:21:58 2000 | pete> | For Mands! Could you please be so kind as to post the coordinates of the linux course you mentioned recently? thanx a million! | |
| Mon Feb 7 07:41:05 2000 | mands> | jake why yes i can work a search engine didnt need to though and its funny you would mention f-prot thats the one i chose after downloading 4 from simtel | |
| Mon Feb 7 07:43:05 2000 7 | gregy> | syn/ack.....go to the URL on the left, and you will see the http download link, and the ftp download link right under the DRDOS caption... | |
| Mon Feb 7 07:45:02 2000 7 | gregy> | RATS...!!! snookered by the deadly "7" URL thief, again.....<g>.....SYN/ACK....the URL is: http://www.lineo.com/products/download.html | |
| Mon Feb 7 07:49:17 2000 http://www.lineo.com/products/download.html | gregy> | syn/ack....this IS OpenDos, except now they call it DRDOS...v.7.03......if you want the "genuine" OpenDos, that is v.7.01...it is available on ftp.lineo.com/pub/drdos/OpenDOS.701 | |
| Mon Feb 7 07:50:54 2000 7 | gregy> | HEY...!!! I finally got one URL to go up where it should be.....(cheers...all clap....taking BIG bow....exit left..) | |
| Mon Feb 7 07:51:21 2000 | mands> | here is the catalog pete you can find the tutorial from here www.free-ed.net/catalog.htm | |
| Mon Feb 7 08:02:36 2000 | mands> | good night | |
| Mon Feb 7 08:57:34 2000 | syn/ack> | ty all Dr-dos is great..I think I'm in love.. =o) | |
| Mon Feb 7 09:25:05 2000 | gregy> | well.....I don't know about....DRDOS is real nice......BUT.....maybe you don't want to have an emotional attachment to your OS..<g> | |
| Mon Feb 7 10:08:19 2000 | syn/ack> | Laughing uncontrollable at gregy's rebuttle :op | |
| Mon Feb 7 11:42:09 2000 | syn/ack> | Okay I have yet another question... I was wondering if there are any internet utilities available for msdos... such as ping tracert finger netstat if so..where would I find these? | |
| Mon Feb 7 12:41:55 2000 http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm | dosfan> | Look at this side! | |
| Mon Feb 7 16:20:37 2000 | Lunar> | I tried to download DR-DOS from lineo, it took 1 1/2 hour (386-40) I think it went to bit bucket. Help anyone! E-mail me please. | |
| Mon Feb 7 21:49:33 2000 | Romash> | Hi all | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:01:55 2000 | gregy> | Lunar.....how did you try to download DRDOS..?? I have d/l many times, both from their http off their home page, and from their ftp site, using the Arachne FTP client.....tell us a more please.....and yes, it takes some time to d/l this...the 7.03 is about 6.8Mbytes.... | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:08:47 2000 7 | gregy> | syn/ack........dosfan gave you the URL for dave's page....you will find DOS internet programs, ping, trace, etc....there.... | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:12:19 2000 7 | gregy> | syn/ack.....the trouble with the web is that there is so much stuff out there.....if you go to dave's page, you might get sidetracked into all kinds of stuff....I did....and spent about 6 hours tracking down other stuff that "I just gotta have," ....so off you go...and we will see you again next week.....<g> | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:17:02 2000 7 | gregy> | Romash....belated hello... | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:20:43 2000 7 | gregy> | Lunar....also...it doesn't matter that you use a 386-40....I consistently (by my own preferrence) use my 486-40 all the time... the d/l time is ALWAYS going to be limited by the servers download rate....most of the servers restrict their d/l speed to the old maximum POTS rate or 9600 .....because they don't want the receiver to get bad copy... | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:23:09 2000 7 | gregy> | Lunar....before you panick, look in your CACHE for a BBBIIIIIG file, and look in ARACHNE for a big file.....FTP d/l into Arachne directory while http d/l into cache directory... | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:26:40 2000 | Bob-bo> | gregy, I looked through DAVESSITE, didn't find DOS version of PING or TRACERT. | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:29:42 2000 | Bob-bo> | Lunar, it'll be the bigest file in CACHE, I think 6 Megs. | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:41:27 2000 | gregy> | hi....Bob-bo.....I don't know what isn't there now.....I'll go look quick and be right back | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:42:38 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | Hi ther - just a copmment - I fished the selfinstalling exe for arachne 1.6 out of cache and it ran fine! | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:48:18 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | What version of DRDOS is being discussed? I use version 6.0 and it seems OK | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:54:56 2000 http://switch.to/arachne | Jake> | Hi Kali, someone was looking for you a day or so ago - maybe on the same ISP? Gregy, the switch is more Arachne-friendly now, but I'll make the first page an intro so you can quickly lose the ad banner. For no-mousers, tab to link then F once or twice to focus on the main part of the page and scroll with Space & B. Talking of PING, FINGER etc a UK company that plans e-commerce in CIS (Russia) and Eastern Europe was explored by someone using FTP at the weekend, who found a document waiting to be released on Monday morning, which made some feathers fly. | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:57:00 2000 | Lunar> | gregy: Thank you very kindly, very last file in Arachne- DRDOS703.EXE 6,266,321, just what I wrote down while it was d/ling, now to get it to the other machine. | |
| Tue Feb 8 02:59:46 2000 http://switch.to/arachne | Jake> | Kali, there was a well-known windmill guy when I was a student in the early 1980s -- Musgrove I think. There was even an Engineering and Appropriate Technology course. We had Jim Lovelock of Gaia Theory fame in my dept. | |
| Tue Feb 8 03:04:14 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | Thanks Jake - It was probably Willy who found me via my usual email "in" tray. It is good seing other "non-mousers being catered for. I hat them because they always get clammy in this wet climate, and also I broke the PS@ mouse port on my old Toshiba Laptop while mopping CMOS batter exudate of the mother board.........:-( | |
| Tue Feb 8 03:07:57 2000 | Jake> | Yuck! Occasionally in Windows (actually, regularly when I'm doing something pixel by pixel with a graphic) my PS2 mouse goes haywire with Windows resizing all over the place. So I'm pretty good with Doze kybrd shortcuts now, to rescue the situation before any work is lost. | |
| Tue Feb 8 03:11:29 2000 | Jake> | I took this Compaq laptop apart Xmas before last to splint its broken hinge. Hoped to spot the UART chips but no joy. The PS/2 has a quicker UART than my modem gets to use. I think the mouse problem is due to a bad connection. | |
| Tue Feb 8 03:12:15 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | Great Jake: It is a small world we liv in. My ex boyfriends father worked with Turing. My work on wind power came from a 1927 paper about a particularly unstable electrical generating system - capacitor resonated induction generators. No body had looked at them because they were known to be uncontrollable.... With software controlled feedback loops this became actually an advantage as you can get away from the old constant voltage, constant frequency steady state sinusoidal mentality that has had electrical engineers for a century. | |
| Tue Feb 8 03:16:21 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | Again Jake: Thanks for the sympathy about mouse function. I had better log off and get to work. I was just enjoying the connection after the association server has been off for a day while the teco hassles with a video card conflicting with something. catch you later | |
| Tue Feb 8 03:19:06 2000 | Jake> | Wow, Turing was an absolute hero of my lecturers, most of whom were students during or after WWII -- Prof did stuff about information content of photos (grain size of silver and all that). Anyway with Turing it was a good lesson to us young bucks due to the "frailty of the human condition" -- profound respect for him whatever he got up to. | |
| Tue Feb 8 03:22:18 2000 | Jake> | Well it must be Kali's afternoon shift, as for me it's another late night (02:20) so "Night all!" | |
| Tue Feb 8 04:25:37 2000 7 | gregy> | Lunar.....boy, really had to dig.....the URL dosfan gave you was good, but Dave rearranged his page today, so I can't find it there... it was a link to the URL on the left....go to www.fdisk.com/doslynx/ and look for the file...trt-e01.exe....and look around there 'cause I got finger, ping, etc from there or one of the sites linked from there. | |
| Tue Feb 8 04:30:52 2000 7 | gregy> | Lunar.....doggone it..!!! ..there goes that rotten "7" URL-eater again....don't laugh..JAKE. ...maybe it's come thru this time.... | |
| Tue Feb 8 04:31:47 2000 7 | gregy> | nope....go ahead and laugh,...Jake....<g> | |
| Tue Feb 8 07:32:08 2000 | pete> | Thank you very much MANDS for sharing that fascinating url with us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! best regards pete | |
| Tue Feb 8 19:37:54 2000 | R> | 12345 | |
| Tue Feb 8 19:45:44 2000 | R.> | Proverochka | |
| Wed Feb 9 01:36:31 2000 | gregy> | Jake....yes, you have been working a little on your switch page.....when you have time, I can tell you about what I saw it doing when I tried to bounce my Arachne thru it..... | |
| Wed Feb 9 03:32:30 2000 http://switch.to/arachne | Jake> | Yep Gregy, that advertising frame is tenacious. If you go to the Games page and then follow the link back to the Archive you'll lose the frame, but I thought having the simple but useful first page would give the step needed to lose the frame. Yesterday's tricks with F don't work now :-( At the moment you can save time by disabling images (~), but I'll put up a second intermediary page and see if that loses the frame :-) | |
| Wed Feb 9 04:20:16 2000 http://www.cableone.net/eathan | RabidMouse> | Hey guys, I just uploaded a new release of FreeGEM, this one has a working install program, more bugfixes and some new features | |
| Wed Feb 9 04:59:08 2000 | mands> | Hey PETE glad you liked the catalog try this out for some more useful stuff www.slashdot.org | |
| Wed Feb 9 12:08:27 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | Kali> | Hi there - I just had to let off steam **************** How do you access hotmail with Arachne? Their usual sumbit forms seem to be in Java. I used to be able to rattle through them in Lynx run out of Telnet .....! | |
| Wed Feb 9 12:35:46 2000 | dos_fan> | RapidMouse, I looked to your page but don't find the new release: On the download page an on the GEM page is only FreeGEM 3b. You write GEM/XM beta 3 and FreeGEM/XM 3.15a, but there is no link to download it!! There is only "source" written! | |
| Wed Feb 9 12:37:28 2000 | dos_fan> | Sorry, GEM/XM beta 3 isn't written, only GEMbed3 | |
| Wed Feb 9 14:28:04 2000 http://switch.to/arachne | Jake> | Gregy: bounce thru the switch at your leisure (tho the server was busy early afternoon local time) -- Save time and switch off yer images ~ | |
| Wed Feb 9 22:41:13 2000 | Bob-bo> | R, 54321 you are loud and clear | |
| Thu Feb 10 00:10:03 2000 http://www.cableone.net/eathan/freegem.zip | RabidMouse> | It is in the downloads section, since it is a completed product, but it is still listed as FreeGEM 3.15 since I haven't bothered to update the webpage yet. I have good news though, I just tested the install prog and it works this time, but monochrome monitors beware, for some reason the AES isn't monochrome monitor friendly, if you have a monochrome monitor just tell me and I'll give you a link to an alternative AES that should allow monochrome. And don't expect GEMbed to be up there anytime soon, I would like to have it, but there are many hardware questions I have yet to have answered. | |
| Thu Feb 10 02:10:36 2000 | Bob-bo> | All, downloaded the Icelandic anti-virus F-PROT. Great stuff. Really interesting to me as I was one of the original jet fighter pilots assigned to defend Iceland (a NATO partner of USA). | |
| Thu Feb 10 04:09:58 2000 | soojin> | I am using now lynx. | |
| Thu Feb 10 04:37:52 2000 | Bob-bo> | soojin, Happy New Year, Year of the Dragon | |
| Thu Feb 10 05:32:31 2000 | soojin> | Bob-bo! How are you? Year of the Dragon? Wonderful! Next year is Year of the Snake. | |
| Thu Feb 10 12:31:18 2000 | gregy> | Kali.....hotmail is out....nothing but Windoze browsers allowed, level 4 or above, with new security certificates, and also https...all this since Mz$ bought them out....use yahoo or even netscape.net.... | |
| Thu Feb 10 12:42:59 2000 | gregy> | ...also...Kali....DRDOS6.0 is my preferred brand of dos....I have d/l the DRDOS7.03 but haven't yet installed it...and am in no hurry to do so since the 6.0 is so stable, and very useful... I don't use the viewmax since I prefer the command line, but do use a little editor/file manager called "Topdos" that came with the original issue of DRDOS 3.35 (sold as EASY DOS) back in the mid 80's.... | |
| Thu Feb 10 12:51:04 2000 | gregy> | ...good Grieg..!!!...Jake....that archive page is sure getting schmaltzey....<g> ...but I came scooting right through the bounce, and FWIW I don't think you should worry about the ADVERT. it is only on the door page, and gets scrapped off when you ENTER....<g g g> | |
| Thu Feb 10 12:53:08 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo......yes...I am going to d/l that, as Jake mentioned it over on the list...and I am always interested in trying out new antivirus utilities... | |
| Thu Feb 10 13:04:51 2000 | gregy> | Jake.....BTW....I went and downloaded the IE3 that you told me about....and I scrounged up a copy of NetNav and NetCommPro 4.08, and I installed the IE3 first...it went very smooth.. and I installed the NN408 and NC408....and... THEN...I used the Mz "get connected" agent to install two more dialup agents, one each into the NN and NC folders......and the whole shebang works like a champ....I have three Win31 browsers loaded up, and they all use the Mz tcpip stack and the Mz dialup agents....and... it looks like ANY browser will fire up and use these, since I do the dialup first/separate, then double click on whatever browser I want to launch, and there is a definite delay, so it I can dink with it a little bit, maybe I can run my Arachne under the Win31 launch pad too..... all this, just to be finding something to do... not having anything else.....<vbg> | |
| Thu Feb 10 14:33:38 2000 http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm | dos_fan> | gregy, DR-DOS 7.03 is much better!! I would use it... | |
| Thu Feb 10 14:35:42 2000 http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm | dos_fan> | gregy, DR-DOS 7.03 is much better!! I would use it... | |
| Thu Feb 10 15:34:28 2000 | gregy> | dos fan.....you really thing so....???...I will give it a try, but I am not in a hurry to do it ...because, I am ssooooo used to my 6.0 and have no complaints about it, that I will need to get myself pumped up to make the transition.....<g> | |
| Thu Feb 10 15:59:38 2000 http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | gregy, maybe you don't need it, but it has multitasking, 32-Bit DPMI, a mouse driver, device loader, a very good harddisk cache... | |
| Thu Feb 10 18:25:31 2000 | Bob-bo> | I was one of the people frozen out of Yahoo! yesterday due to overload. Did any of you hit this problem? | |
| Thu Feb 10 19:09:08 2000 | dos_fan> | No. | |
| Thu Feb 10 21:34:41 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo.....no, I went to bed about a half-hour before the attack began...(what!...me..???... I'm innocent...I was in bed....!!!) and did not get up until it was over....but I've been reading all about it....on My Yahoo, on my ZDNet webcast, etc.....the only problem I have had has been since Monday, I cannot get the Microsoft Download server to cough up the IE5 update....maybe the overall web-attack has had something to do with that.... | |
| Thu Feb 10 21:38:45 2000 | gregy> | ....hey....DEV....I was on your site the other night, you had just updated the page, and I could not find the ping, trace, etc. that I THOUGHT I got off your site....nice reshuffle, but I will have to get back and browse...it is like when I clean my house....then I can never find anything again for about 3-months...<vbg> | |
| Thu Feb 10 21:41:46 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo....that must have been sort of like when the Arachne Chat/Arachne Server are all clogged up...huh..??.....were you just visiting, or do you have an account on Yahoo...??? | |
| Thu Feb 10 22:30:48 2000 | Wizard57M> | Well, folks, looks like a few of us are still up and running through all the DoS attacks! So far I haven't had any problems getting to desired destinations. | |
| Thu Feb 10 22:32:35 2000 | Wizard57M> | I'm still working on minimidi player for DOS PC without sound card...have Arachne APM working while browsing "offline" now, if I can just get the "EMBED" tags figured out on HTML while online! | |
| Thu Feb 10 22:36:13 2000 | Wizard57M> | Sometimes I think most of the hype around these "attacks" is just that...hype. Maybe an attempt to frighten many of the new users to Internet into "demanding government regulations" of Internet! Any ideas from other Arachne users? | |
| Thu Feb 10 22:38:01 2000 | Wizard57M> | If anyone has idea what I need to do on minimidi to get it playing while online, I would appreciate any and all tips! C U L8R! Wiz ;-) | |
| Thu Feb 10 22:54:07 2000 http://bernie.arachne.cz/ | Bernie> | Wizard57M: Arachne can't use the EMBED tag at this moment. So there's nothing wrong with your program not working while on-line. (Well, there might of course be a fault - but if it works off-line I can see why it shouldn't work on-line as well as soon as the EMBED tag can be used again in Arachne. | |
| Thu Feb 10 23:04:36 2000 | Wizard57M> | Thanks Bernie! That helps a lot, I was beginning to think I'd done something wrong! | |
| Thu Feb 10 23:07:45 2000 | Wizard57M> | I just recently installed Arachne 1.60 beta 1, had been using 1.5 src, thought I had broken something! Hehehe, silly Wiz! I'm not a very good programmer, too much time spent at work! | |
| Fri Feb 11 01:25:13 2000 http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/index.html | Wizard57M> | Attention All Arachne Users! I'm considering adding another web page to a different page host, provided by Snap.com, through the XOOM hosting services. Does anyone have any experience with this particular web host? Your feedback is most welcome! Thank You! | |
| Fri Feb 11 01:49:26 2000 | Jake> | Wizard -- I had a Xoom guestbook last summer. They imposed a revamped design and lost some messages. They'll send you advertising email every couple of days | |
| Fri Feb 11 02:30:35 2000 | Wizard57M> | Did you keep your XOOM guestbook, Jake? | |
| Fri Feb 11 02:32:19 2000 | Wizard57M> | Last I checked, NBC has purchased/merged now with XOOM and Snap.com. Snap has been pretty good so far, one of the quicker loading "portal" sites on the web (imho) | |
| Fri Feb 11 02:57:18 2000 | Scilence> | hello, i have a question | |
| Fri Feb 11 02:58:26 2000 | Scilence> | i just put Arachne on my system, and i am un able to select things on the right side of the screen...did i currupt the code when extracting or something? | |
| Fri Feb 11 02:59:16 2000 | Scilence> | anyone? | |
| Fri Feb 11 03:13:50 2000 | Jake> | Scilence: you mean you cannot select links? Do you use a mouse or Tab between links? Wizard -- I've still got the link to the guestbook, but it's not active on any page. I also had a message board, and I combined the functions with a message forum from http://network54.com Things like a configurable local timezone, minimal graphics and hassle-free anonymity were what I wanted. Get in touch and I'll give you a link to several guestbooks you can play around with. | |
| Fri Feb 11 03:15:20 2000 | Jake> | Wizard: the current message forum is at http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/47126 -- but there's not much there! | |
| Fri Feb 11 04:21:24 2000 | Bob-bo> | Scilence, even if you don't use a mouse, you need a mouse driver installed to make the TAB key work everywhere on the screen. | |
| Fri Feb 11 07:27:59 2000 | Wizard57M> | Thanks, Jake! I'll checkit out sometime. I've got a page on Hometown AOL, but...haven't been to happy with AOL lately, haha. I've also written my own "templates" for guestbooks, email forms, etc. Trying to learn some of this HTML stuff. | |
| Fri Feb 11 07:30:28 2000 | Wizard57M> | Scilence...you might also try "re-sizing" the Arachne window...there is an arrow pointing diagonally on the top bar of Arachne window. This aligns your "hot-spots" at the top rather than down the side, and maximizes your viewable area...handy when you only have 14 or 15 inch VGA at 640 x 480!! | |
| Fri Feb 11 07:31:54 2000 | Wizard57M> | I know, I know...buy new stuff Wiz! Hahaha! But my old stuff just keeps on running! Very seldom crashes, rarely! Not bad for home built machine! | |
| Fri Feb 11 07:37:47 2000 | Wizard57M> | If anyone wants to visit Ol' Wiz's attempts at HTML, try http://hometown.aol.com/Wizard57M/wizard1.htm for one and http://hometown.aol.com/GLENNRPH/glennrph.htm for another. Notice...I did these pages on a WIN3.1 machine, so some of the background sounds might not play in DOS, but seem "OK" in WIN3 and from feedback from friends WIN95. | |
| Fri Feb 11 07:40:16 2000 | Wizard57M> | I have been able to play the background MIDI files while "offline" in Arachne...guess a person could "save" the MIDI from Arachne/cache directory, then use my "minimidi" player if they don't have sound card/midi device. | |
| Fri Feb 11 16:26:54 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | "I shall call it MiniMidi!" AFAIK <EMBED> only works offline, but I don't have a soundcard in the Arachne computer so couldn't hear it anyway... This chat is getting too busy! I used to come here every few days and rarely go much more than the 11 messages. Now theres like 40 new messages every day. I'm still working on the CGI scripting to bring a competitor to this chat and also archiving this site :) | |
| Fri Feb 11 16:39:06 2000 | dos_fan> | :-) | |
| Fri Feb 11 16:47:51 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | ;-) | |
| Fri Feb 11 18:16:35 2000 http://bernie.arachne.cz/ | Bernie> | Hoody: Wouldn't it be easier to contact Robert Polak and ask him to change things in the CGI? (espacially if you know how to make a CGI chat yourself). BTW: IIRC the size for the messages on the chat is ca 2.3MB | |
| Fri Feb 11 19:00:11 2000 | Wizard57M> | Hoody...my MiniMidi player works WITHOUT a sound card! Somewhat anyhow! Plays like the highest pitch note it first finds in the MIDI track. If interested, let me know and I'll send you a copy to play with via email attachment! Now don't expect much, I'm actually a pharmacist, not a good programmer, but it does give you some MIDI play! | |
| Fri Feb 11 19:02:57 2000 | Wizard57M> | Also, for any Arachne user :-) I have put together an Arachne "APM" to install MiniMidi as a helper app for Arachne 1.43 and higher...if anyone wants to try it, let me know...suggestions warmly appreciated, flames doused with H2O! Hahahaha! | |
| Fri Feb 11 19:08:11 2000 | Wizard57M> | You can also use MiniMidi as stand-alone app to play small simple MIDI music...I use it this way on an ancient IBM PS2 I have...have a small collection of holiday type MIDIs I play via batch file during holidays, whatnot! | |
| Fri Feb 11 19:09:42 2000 | Wizard57M> | I could even be persuaded to include "source" files for Minimidi if someone wanted to tinker with it, maybe improve on it?? Just let me know! | |
| Fri Feb 11 19:13:13 2000 | Wizard57M> | Last compile I did on it I used the old "Pacific C" shareware/now freeware compiler...I just don't remember where I put PAC C at now! Getting older I guess! | |
| Fri Feb 11 23:54:48 2000 http://www.cableone.net/eathan | rabidmouse> | Hey Wizard, why don't you give the source for sound card support and stuff, us at GEM development have been wanting some kind of multimedia support for GEM. Also, you can get Pacific C at http://www.pacific.com.au | |
| Sat Feb 12 06:49:45 2000 | Wizard57M> | Well, rabidmouse, my source doesn't have sound card support :-( , only for the PC speaker. Seems I remember seeing a public domain sound card source somewhere, but I'll be darned if I can remember where! It may have been on Creative Labs website (the Sound Blaster folks). Problem there is the sheer number of different sound cards...unless a "generic" SB compatible library would work? I'll do a bit of hunting over the weekend, see what I can find! | |
| Sat Feb 12 06:52:15 2000 | Wizard57M> | Still working on GEM? Gosh, it's been a long time since I ran across GEM...I thought it had been dropped almost completely! Cool! If memory serves correctly, GEM provides a graphic desktop even on an old PC, like the XTs, 286s and such! Very interesting indeed! ;-) | |
| Sat Feb 12 07:46:00 2000 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ | WinterKnight> | GEM has been bought from Digital Research along with DR-DOS, CP/M and all other DR products by Novell, which in turn sold it to Caldera. Caldera have continued the development of DR-DOS for now, but it seems like it might stop soon. CP/M have been released under the GNU license, and also GEM (After abit of nagging.). | |
| Sat Feb 12 10:19:39 2000 | Hobbes> | Hello | |
| Sat Feb 12 11:13:40 2000 http://members.xoom.com/M_Stranger/doc01.htm | gbx> | Hi, All. Am going to be offline for a while, but wanted to mention that I updated my file library and links yesterday, adding a few neat little morsels that might be good for experimenting. :) If ya ever wanted to try Linux, but didnt want to totally change everything that is setup on your computer currently,...might take a surf on my "MuLinux" link. It is a real Linux,...but uses the typical DOS file system to operate. Make sure to get all the "addon" "*.tgz" files and put them in the same dir as your "dostools", and all will work great. :) Regards, gbx. | |
| Sat Feb 12 11:46:09 2000 | dos_fan> | WinterKnight, could you write a letter to Line and ask about the future and if it will release under GPL? | |
| Sat Feb 12 19:50:08 2000 | Stef.> | Now i can tell you a funny story: the problems i had (and have) with my connection are because the AFN here had a new big station and i am receiving radio now with my phone cable. i didn't know that would be really possible. so i don't know what to do against that... | |
| Sat Feb 12 19:56:31 2000 | Bob-bo> | Stef, I haven't had the problem with phone lines, but every time I turn my electronic organ on, it picks up a local FM radio station. | |
| Sat Feb 12 20:42:40 2000 | Lunar> | Stef: Complain to phone Co. It is a bad line. | |
| Sat Feb 12 21:07:37 2000 | Wizard57M> | Stef-you can also talk to cable company, inquire about "sheilding" their cable from outside interference. | |
| Sat Feb 12 21:08:31 2000 | Wizard57M> | <---will be AFKB for minute...needs more coffee! ;-) | |
| Sat Feb 12 22:58:44 2000 | Stef.> | Well, of course i made complaints with the phone company, but they only said: "we can't do anything." instead they tryed to sell me some "filter" but it's quite expensiv. Never the less, i think i will buy it, no other chance. | |
| Sat Feb 12 23:13:05 2000 | Wizard57M> | Stef-check with a local electronics store, they might have a "filter" which would work, but less expensive. Sort of like "automobile alternator noise filter" for car stereo systems. | |
| Sat Feb 12 23:16:22 2000 | Wizard57M> | in US, most electronic devices, per FCC regs, must accept interference from power lines, etc. and not cause interference. I have bunch of high-voltage electric lines about 200 feet away...sometimes causes problems, esp w/phone lines. | |
| Sun Feb 13 07:09:32 2000 | Wizard57M> | FYI---I've located a great graphics viewer for DOS---FREEWARE too! Name of program is PictView...supports about 50 different picture formats. Can convert between more popular formats. Author is Jan Patera. If interested, visit Rich Greens DOS freeware site, look under graphics tools. Go to: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/softlib1.htm Another good one is LXPic, also available there...thought I'd share my good fortune! C U L8R! Wiz | |
| Sun Feb 13 07:11:26 2000 | Wizard57M> | Oops...left out part of url for Rich's site! My bad...try http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1401/softlib1.htm Geez, one of these days...sorry 'bout that folks! | |
| Sun Feb 13 08:25:00 2000 | tmptmp> | Wizard... Best Dos, free or otherwise viewer et,al is Display. | |
| Sun Feb 13 08:59:45 2000 11 | The Dude> | I've found that the best collection of software and URLs lies at http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm - PictView is listed there as well. | |
| Sun Feb 13 09:00:12 2000 0 | The Dude> | I've found that the best collection of software and URLs lies at http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm - PictView is listed there as well. | |
| Sun Feb 13 09:01:14 2000 11 | The Dude> | I hate that URL bug. | |
| Sun Feb 13 11:13:58 2000 www.opus.co.tt/dave/inex.htm | dos_fan> | Yes, it is the best link side for DOS!! | |
| Sun Feb 13 11:20:25 2000 http://www.multimediaware.com/ | dos_fan> | There are also 2 very good viewer/bzw. player: QV - Qick View PV - Picture View: it is NOT PictView!! It's also very good | |
| Sun Feb 13 15:16:07 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Bernie: yeah, it might be easier to get Robert to do the changes. But I am also playing with CGI and perl so I want to do things myself :) But since uni is restarting soon (OH NO I HAVE TO BE THERE IN 8 HOURS) I won't have as much time as I used to. :( [I am now a 3rd year Engineering student] Wizard57M: Thanks, email it to the email address behind my name (hoody@hotkey.net.au) - hoody@i.am is a real address but I wouldn't trust it with attachments; its just a redirector. I do have a PC speaker MIDI player though, sounded pretty crappy. Is yours any better? PS: On most arachne.cz sites my Netscape (Communicator 4.6 on W95 accessing internet though LAN/linux server) shows the text as Comic Sans MS. but as soon as I leave these sites it goes back to the Times New Roman. I have no idea whats causing all that. :( It's even doing it on Bernie's [bernie.arachne.cz] but not [hem.passagen.se/~bernie/index.htm] | |
| Sun Feb 13 15:36:41 2000 | Bob-bo> | Yes, PictView is great I pulled down a .jpg viewer from Jan, e-mailed him that I needed to rotate pix, he e-mailed back that he also was the author of PictView and that same site. | |
| Sun Feb 13 17:27:11 2000 http://bernie.arachne.cz/ | Bernie> | Hoody: Yes I noticed this myself. I wonder why it does that, probably some weird setting. If it's bothersome to use my pages that way it's almost the same (but not as updated - and it will not be either) at http://hem.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm | |
| Sun Feb 13 19:35:06 2000 http://dr-dos.4business.net/ | dos_fan> | A must visit side!! | |
| Sun Feb 13 20:54:11 2000 11 | Wizard57M> | Hoody...I'll be sending you a package ASAP! The Dude...Yep, URL bug bits big, eh! Hehe! What gets really aggravating is you know darn good and well you typed in URL right, but for whatever reason the server doesn't respond...wonder if that's related to the weeks DDoS attacks at some of the Web's big sites? | |
| Sun Feb 13 20:56:10 2000 11 | Wizard57M> | <---Is going to be AFKB, need more coffee...again! Darn mug must have a hole in it...be back later! ;-) | |
| Sun Feb 13 23:55:10 2000 http://www.freedos.org | dos_fan> | Please look to the FreeDOS homepage;There is something very interesting about Dr-DOS. (not realy 'about', but I don't speak Englisch very well :-) | |
| Mon Feb 14 05:46:25 2000 | tmptmp> | Wizard..., Display also on Dave's Interesting Dos program page. | |
| Mon Feb 14 08:41:05 2000 http://wizard57m.homepage.com/index.html | Wizard57M> | Hey Folks! I've been noticing a tiny glitch the last couple of days...with web based email at www.email.com, only with Arachne 1.60 beta 1...when I login, info is xmtd OK, but Arachne doesn't load the next page anymore??? Anyone else notice anything similar? Just started 2 days ago, been using 1.60b1 about 1 week. | |
| Mon Feb 14 08:43:47 2000 http://wizard57m.homepage.com/index.html | Wizard57M> | Arachne 1.50 SRC did not exhibit this one...I've noticed similar behaviour with Yahoo mail too. Any suggestions? Am contemplating re-installing 1.50 src | |
| Mon Feb 14 08:48:33 2000 http://wizard57m.homepage.com/index.html | Wizard57M> | My Excite email works OK with 1.6b1...I know, I know, darn Wiz, how many email addresses do you have! Hahaha...too many? Never! | |
| Mon Feb 14 10:57:00 2000 http://wizard57m.homepage.com/index.html | Wizard57M> | Oh, while it's on my mind...HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY EVERYONE!! ;-) | |
| Mon Feb 14 11:22:11 2000 | Jake> | XXX ;-) | |
| Mon Feb 14 12:50:58 2000 | dr Lgal> | Musze podziekowac Czechom za ich wysilek - opracowanie wyjstkowej przeglsdarki. Chyba nikt inny na to nie wpadl... | |
| Mon Feb 14 16:53:52 2000 | Leo Mancini> | hello this is the first time that I've used this chat how is everyone out there | |
| Mon Feb 14 16:55:26 2000 | Leo Mancini> | hello | |
| Mon Feb 14 16:56:05 2000 | Leo Mancini> | does anyone want to talk to me about arachne?? | |
| Mon Feb 14 17:15:31 2000 | Lunar> | Leo This is more like a bulletin board probably no one else around, I am leaving to check mail and work on taxes. CULater | |
| Mon Feb 14 17:47:27 2000 | Bob-bo> | Leo, Are you having problems with Arachne? I'm not one of the experts but I might be able to help. | |
| Mon Feb 14 18:45:58 2000 http://bernie.arachne.cz | Bernie> | My favorite image viewer is QPV. It's by far the fastest there is, viewing a JPEG is as fast as a GIF in most other programs. I do not know hoever where to download it - I got it from a friend several years ago. | |
| Mon Feb 14 18:48:24 2000 http://bernie.arachne.cz | Bernie> | Ok, Go to http://www.google.com/ text to search for is "qpv" and then hit the "I feel lucky" button :) PV is on the other hand my favorite program when I need to convert images (qpv can't convert), but it's much slower on viewing images. | |
| Mon Feb 14 23:48:16 2000 http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali | kali> | Hi: I am interested Leo in form submission problems. Hotmail and Yahoo both give me troubles. I find indonet works though to my amazement! | |
| Tue Feb 15 02:24:52 2000 | Bob-bo> | Kali, I'm fascinated by your windmills. Is there a good market in Australia? They were a small short-lived fad here in the eastern US. | |
| Tue Feb 15 03:59:35 2000 | Wizard57M> | Kali--I'm having similar problems with Arachne 1.60 beta 1...seems the forms submit "OK", but Arachne is not "refreshing" the page with new information after say a "login" to email service. I don't remember this happening with 1.5 SRC. | |
| Tue Feb 15 04:01:43 2000 | Wizard57M> | I'm double-checking several little settings in my ARACHNE.CFG file to make sure I've got it set to "refresh" the page after submission. If (big if!) I find where I've got a wrong setting, I'll post to the group! | |
| Tue Feb 15 13:08:42 2000 | ACEMAN> | Bernie: the home of QPV is http://ftp.tu-clausthal.de . | |
| Tue Feb 15 20:18:46 2000 | YoYo> | Hi,... | |
| Tue Feb 15 21:08:29 2000 http://altern.org/qtaz | T'aZ> | Hzello it s great , im under dos!!! without fatal error! haaaaa...... | |
| Tue Feb 15 21:25:13 2000 http://ihavenowebsiteandthisisjusttogetmein.com | TiM> | How do I connect and surf AOL with Arachne? I have no IP address for AOL or a DNS server. Can anybody help me, PLEASE? | |
| Tue Feb 15 21:38:58 2000 | ANDO> | hello all | |
| Tue Feb 15 21:40:51 2000 11 | Bob-bo> | TIM, just press the G key for goto, backspace what's in the URL line and type www.aol.com press Return | |
| Tue Feb 15 21:45:21 2000 | kaffijunky> | YES YES !! its great i have a old laptop from 1991 (80386 with 2 mb ram) and can surf in the internet!! | |
| Tue Feb 15 21:48:47 2000 | Bob-bo> | kaffijunky, Yes it's great, not having to carry the burden of Windows and be able to do everything except JavaScript | |
| Wed Feb 16 09:46:02 2000 | Wizard57M> | TiM---AOL will not allow connection to their server with any software EXCEPT AOL software...you can view and visit parts of their Internet site located at http://www.aol.com | |
| Wed Feb 16 09:47:41 2000 | Wizard57M> | The same applies for their Instant Message servers...must be using AOL Instant Messenger...big showdown last summer/early fall with Microsoft, Tribal Voice and others | |
| Wed Feb 16 09:50:07 2000 | Wizard57M> | Hello ANDO, YoYo, T'aZ | |
| Wed Feb 16 11:39:16 2000 | SHTAKOR> | FUCK U DARL | |
| Thu Feb 17 00:56:46 2000 | [DarkMan]> | Do you download the latest version of Arachne? Is the new implementation of tables and frames cool? | |
| Thu Feb 17 01:00:56 2000 | [DarkMan]> | Heheheh. This chat appears more to an NG :oD. Bye and thank for use of DOS. | |
| Thu Feb 17 01:06:11 2000 | dr Agal> | Whats you now about .PDF reader for DOS?? | |
| Thu Feb 17 01:50:14 2000 | Wizard57M> | dr Agal...I couple of years back I downloaded the DOS version of Acrobat Reader...worked "OK", but it was slow, needs like 4 meg RAM minimum, and didn't support the new PDF formats. Haven't tried the PDF reader on Arachne download page | |
| Thu Feb 17 02:00:45 2000 11 | Jake> | I'm lazy and send the URL of the PDF to pdf2txt@adobe.com or pdf2html@adobe.com In this context, I also mail the website and tell them they should supply an HTML alternative. | |
| Thu Feb 17 02:01:42 2000 | Wizard57M> | DarkMan...this chat is much more like a message board...we ask questions, give help, say "Hi", what not...but it may be a bit of time before you see a reply. Don't despair, just check back every hour or so. | |
| Thu Feb 17 02:05:25 2000 | Wizard57M> | DarkMan...re: Arachne 1.60 beta 1...yes, frame, table handling in latest version is cool, some improvements over version 1.50 SRC. However, it is a "first beta", so expect a few minor glitches. One I've noticed is in "form submission" and displaying updated webpages following form submit, like in loading a web based email page, like Yahoo or in a customized Yahoo page. Yahoo seems to do ok most of time, but I've noticed problems with Snap, ZDNet and Excite on occasion. | |
| Thu Feb 17 02:58:19 2000 | YoYo> | Dr Agal, PDF's in DOS is possible with Acrodos from Adobe with old PDF's. Or with Ghostscript, but that gives not a clear result. I installed Win311 lately to use Ghostscript together with Ghostview, that works ok. But there is AcroRead for Win311 as well. (All free programs, go to www.google.com to find them). | |
| Thu Feb 17 03:02:27 2000 | YoYo> | Wizard57M, I guess you misunderstood me about Win 311, I already have it installed. (it was part of an old 486SX-25 I bought once, all 9 disks inc. cert.). | |
| Thu Feb 17 03:06:13 2000 | YoYo> | Wizard57M, BTW, I did try once Win95 OSR2 on a 486DX-66 with 4 MB and it worked! It took 1 minute to display an icon on the desktop. | |
| Thu Feb 17 03:47:35 2000 | Wizard57M> | YoYo---I do that on occasion...get signals crossed, hahaha. W95 on 486 W/4meg?? Wow...bet boot time was a few minutes! On my old PS2 it would take about 2 minutes for WIN3.1 Write to load up for new document, haha. So, I decided to forget W31 on the PS2 til I find more RAM, maybe larger hard drive..29meg getting full! | |
| Thu Feb 17 03:50:46 2000 | Wizard57M> | Either that, or just use it as DOS machine...get and send email, small stuff, a few games. Have been tinkering with email app for DOS called NetMail...shows promise for use on the PS2, needs "PPP driver", like DPPP (included with Arachne), have it functioning on my 486! | |
| Thu Feb 17 03:51:56 2000 | Wizard57M> | So, my next step is to try and get it configured on PS2...planning on doing that tomorrow night (Thursday) | |
| Thu Feb 17 15:26:47 2000 http://userpages.chorus.net/mtch | Jondo> | Little black specks appear on my screen when I pass the mouse cursor over it and red, blue and green specks appear on pictures. It is worse when pictures are displayed by themselves and sometimes doesn't happen at all when pictures are displayed within html pages. I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem and if anyone else has the same graphics card that I do-ATI Mach 64-but doesn't have this problem. | |
| Thu Feb 17 16:15:42 2000 http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ | dos_fan> | Look at http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ for a PDF to txt or bitmap converter! | |
| Thu Feb 17 16:16:57 2000 http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ | dos_fan> | On the DOWNLOAD side there will a DOS version!!! (not only Linux) | |
| Thu Feb 17 17:51:20 2000 | Wizard57M> | Jondo-I don't have an ATI card, mines an older Cirrus Logic, but occasionally graphics don't display well inside Arachne browser window, but if viewed inside the ARACHNE/CACHE directory with regular viewer, they appear fine. I've only noticed this with "24 bit" true color JPGs and BMPs...might try setting Arachne to use a "high color" setting, if you have enough video memory (at least 1 meg, 2 meg preferable), and also set Arachne to use minimum of 2 meg extended RAM if at all possible...do this in the Arachne Options screen. | |
| Thu Feb 17 22:47:22 2000 http://lewellyn.san-jose.ca.us/ | _Lewellyn> | It's been a while since I've been in here... I heard there was a new version of Arachne, so I decided to check it out. I was pleased to see a placeholder for http/stub, but unpleased to see that core.exe doesn't seem to have support. I've downloaded stub32 and it's running. Will I have to go back to 1.50? :( BTW, it'd be nice to run Arachne "Millennium" on Windows Millennium... Nice juxtaposition. | |
| Fri Feb 18 00:17:26 2000 | Jake> | An M$ spokesman has just been on the news repeating several times that Windows2000 runs on a broader range of platforms than any other OS. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:21:13 2000 | Bob-bo> | A pox on Windows and a pox on mice. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:27:31 2000 | caverge> | Bob-bo: I second that emotion. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:31:41 2000 | Bob-bo> | Hi caverge, haven't seen you for a while, ditto gregy | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:33:00 2000 | caverge> | Jake: I don't know whether to take the post re: Frank Costin as up, down, sideways or tangential. <G> | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:34:11 2000 | caverge> | Hi Bob-bo. Any snow ? We're in for a load for the next 2 days I hear. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:36:36 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo.....now, now...mustn't badmouth "the" premier OS in the whole world....<g> | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:38:55 2000 | caverge> | Hi Gregy. Hey Bob-bo, are you psychic ? I didn't see any Gregy post in the last 42. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:39:11 2000 | gregy> | Jake....et al....my ZDNet News says W2000 has only 63,000 bugs....(that's in 10-thousands) | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:41:05 2000 | Bob-bo> | All, snow expected Sat AM, my whole family, except me is meeting in the WV hills to ski. I'm old enough to badmouth Windows, I did my first programming in 1958 on IBM 650. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:41:31 2000 | caverge> | Gregy: I'm not sure I can relate to anyone that reads the news about W2000 so I'll be off. <g> | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:42:43 2000 | gregy> | Wizard57M.....the login on My Yahoo has always required that I R-reload after I hit the login button, and the login on My Netscape has always done the same with both 1.50src and this 160b1 so you are experiencing the normal operation... just remember to hit R and you won't get too frustrated (like I did until I figured it out) | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:42:49 2000 | caverge> | Bob-bo: You've got me beat by 5 years. I did mine on a DEC PDP-8. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:45:38 2000 | Bob-bo> | gregy, I keep a portfolio on YahooFinance! They keep my sign on and recognize me by cookies. I don't need to login. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:46:14 2000 | gregy> | Clarence....you're just fanatically biased <g> ..I have to at least keep current....one of my customers is sure to do a stupid and buy that junk...then I have to deal with it..... | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:51:18 2000 | gregy> | yeh...Bob-bo...you're an old timer....it wasn't til 59 when I hit my first computer...Philco 6/12 bitter....I never got my hands on an IBM til 69...the early, no-HD, no-TD, bare ptr and console 360, with 16K core......really BIG machine...and boy were we happy to see those tape transports come thru the door...beat the heck outa loading core overlays from the binary card hopper....<g> | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:54:18 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo....I don't know the YahooFinance....and maybe I can do something to make them remember me when I come on to MyYahoo, but I don't think so...they require logout, and say that I have to login again for my MyYahoo....I don't know ...I'll check out their help screens though.. | |
| Fri Feb 18 02:56:08 2000 | gregy> | oh...I forgot to mention,,,THE TAPE Reader/Punch on those old 360s...now there was a real useful item.....<g> | |
| Fri Feb 18 03:14:00 2000 | Bob-bo> | We all have more computer power on our desks or tables now than we had in a seperate huge air condition room in the old days. Enough of that for now. | |
| Fri Feb 18 03:42:56 2000 | Wizard57M> | Thanks for the tip, gregy! Yep, does get frustrating, surprisingly Yahoo works pretty well, but Excite has more problems...I think it's cause Excite has started using so much JavaScript. I even have problems on my WIN3 machine w/MSIE3 at Excite. | |
| Fri Feb 18 06:53:39 2000 http://lewellyn.san-jose.ca.us/ | _Lewellyn> | Anyone try to use stub32 under Windows with the newest Arachne? If you've gotten it to work, please email me so your message doesn't end up way out there in the boonies of this page. | |
| Fri Feb 18 18:25:28 2000 http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | dos_fan> | New SEAL version: SEAL 1c test version http://www.home.sk/public/seal/ | |
| Fri Feb 18 20:40:07 2000 | Radio> | Hi there, my university info center says there is a budweiser screensaver BUDDYLST.SIP coming with e-mail messages. You don't want to open it, as it is able to "destroy you HD and get your personal data", according to AOL. I hope this information will turn out to be wrong but be careful, just in case... Watch out | |
| Fri Feb 18 21:25:38 2000 http://http://home.arachne.cz/ | arif> | Arif privet otpravil tebe soobsshenije no eshe tolkom ne razobralsa s etoj company.privet and nailuchshije pogelanija farik | |
| Fri Feb 18 22:45:42 2000 | gh> | ghrtfg | |
| Sat Feb 19 02:25:01 2000 | Bob-bo> | Just to say that I'm here for a little while. | |
| Sat Feb 19 02:31:15 2000 | Bob-bo> | dos-fan, I looked at Seal, it requires a mouse. Not for me, I like Arachne because everything works on hot-keys. | |
| Sat Feb 19 02:31:52 2000 | Wizard57M> | Radio...that particular virus warning is a "hoax", doesn't exist. Refer to Symantec's web site for more info at http://www.symantec.com...There is another email attachment circulating, similar name, but is not a virus, rather a Trojan program, attempts to steal your AOL passwords...so, DON'T USE AOL, haha...just joking! | |
| Sat Feb 19 02:33:13 2000 | Wizard57M> | The real solution is...always, always, always scan each and every email attachment with a good antivirus scanner prior to executing any programs in it! If you need antivirus, I can offer some starting places for excellent freeware antivirus packages | |
| Sat Feb 19 02:37:21 2000 | Wizard57M> | For links to antivirus, check out my web page at either... 1) http://wizard57m.homepage.com/index.html (note, on a slow server...be patient!) 2) http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/index.html (faster server ;-) ) For DOS/WIN3 I recommend F-Prot, if you have WIN9X or NT4 installed, try Inoculate PE at CAI | |
| Sat Feb 19 02:39:48 2000 | Wizard57M> | If these aren't what you need, contact me...I know of a couple of other freeware scanners, and I still have the older Frisk Software VIRSTOP TSR version 2.28 for DOS (checks files "on the fly") | |
| Sat Feb 19 02:46:50 2000 | Bob-bo> | Wizard, Amen to don't use AOL. Yes, I agree that F-Prot is a great virus scanner. It's amazing how many vcirus things there are. | |
| Sat Feb 19 03:21:53 2000 | Wizard57M> | More on antivirus scanners...I've used a command-line Norton scanner for DOS, it's good, but you need minimum 2 meg RAM. Have also pieced together one of my own, also requires 2 meg RAM...Interested? Send email message. I make no guarantees on Wizard's AntiVirus, but I haven't had any bugs show up yet, and it gets updated definitions at least every 2 weeks, when I find time, LOL!! But hey, it's free...unless you feel an uncontrollable urge to send a contribution to the author! However, I would prefer you donate something to your favorite charity! ;-) | |
| Sat Feb 19 15:32:44 2000 | Newbie> | Uhhh, can anyone help me? | |
| Sat Feb 19 15:34:09 2000 | Newbie> | I have arachne 1.50 but i can't seem to log on the net... I am trying to connect to a university that seems to load the password and username as soon as i log on but i can't find out what script to use or if i don't use a script.. | |
| Sat Feb 19 20:57:10 2000 | clock> | Timecheck. | |
| Sat Feb 19 20:57:25 2000 | clock> | Slate. | |
| Sat Feb 19 21:33:53 2000 | caverge> | Newbie: Try to set Arachne for manual login with use terminal set to yes and follow the dialog. After you have passed the password authentication either it will wait for your input or prompt you. It may also just switch directly to ppp. This will be a string of garbage containing "}". It you get this, hit whatever "F#" Arachne says on your screen to switch to ppp. | |
| Sat Feb 19 23:18:07 2000 | Wizard57M> | Newbie...you can use simple script in "PPP Setup" of Arachne. First line where reads "wait for" (I think" type in "ogin:" without quotes, line below that reads "send" type in /u (for username),line below reads "wait for", type in "ssword:" (w/o quotes again) and that may be enough, Arachne should automagically attempt PPP/SLIP, and you should get message to that effect | |
| Sat Feb 19 23:20:51 2000 | Wizard57M> | Newbie...oops, my bad....below the line you type in ssword: you need to type in "/p" (for password, without quotes) and that should get Arachne connecting! | |
| Sat Feb 19 23:27:35 2000 | Wizard57M> | Also, make sure you have the little check boxes to "USE SCRIPT" checked in the PPP Dialer setup. If you don't want to use a script, the Arachne dialer will "prompt" (ask you for) your username and password, in sequence, when asked you just type them in and press the "ENTER" key. Once connected to your Internet service, you will receive message about your "IP Address", MTU, etc. At this point you either press the "F7" key or hold down the "Alt" key and press the letter P key. | |
| Sat Feb 19 23:28:59 2000 | Wizard57M> | Then you will receive message "Attempting PPP/SLIP Connection"...if all goes well from there, Arachne should load up your start page (usually "home.htm") Hope this helps a bit! | |
| Sun Feb 20 02:29:32 2000 | Bob-bo> | gregy, Update on cable TV. New mailing from Comcast (FL TV cable co.) says "no phone line means no dialing-up". I've also read recently that bandwidth/speed problems develop with more subscribers. | |
| Sun Feb 20 02:34:23 2000 | Bob-bo> | caverge, Wizard: I think you're mis-understanding Newbie's problem. He IS on web with Arachne. He thinks he needs to log on AOL to play their games, not true. | |
| Sun Feb 20 02:43:42 2000 | tmptmp> | Newbie, after it accepts you user name and password do you hit the alt key and then the letter p key? If not, try that | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:00:56 2000 | Bob-bo> | tmptmp, I think it's Cntrl Pause or F7. | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:06:07 2000 | Wizard57M> | Bob-bo...if he is trying to logon to AOL via Arachne login, he will not succeed UNLESS...he gets connected to internet first, then he must, must run an AOL software, else the only thing he can do on AOL is go to the Web page at www.aol.com, maybe check AOL Mail via netmail. | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:07:42 2000 | Wizard57M> | Carrying that further...if Newbie attempts logon to AOL after Arachne connection, unless he is running in a "DOS BOX" while in Windows, he would also have to start Windows to be able to run the AOL software. | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:09:59 2000 | Wizard57M> | then after getting AOL running, at setup he would need to change his connection from typical modem dial-up to a "TCP/IP", aka "bring your own access"...and I don't know for sure if AOL software would support the DOS packet drivers?? Anyone have any experience with that one? | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:15:03 2000 | Bob-bo> | I didn't think about using AOL S/W. I thought he just wanted to look around their site, which isn't much. | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:17:18 2000 | Bob-bo> | Why would he want to do that? | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:31:24 2000 | Wizard57M> | Hehe, yep...good question Bob-bo! About the only thing an AOL member can do when connected from outside AOL is maybe check email at www.aol.com, but that might not work with Arachne, I think it takes javascript, not sure | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:33:50 2000 | Wizard57M> | Guess if he were interested in the 500 free hours first month trial as new AOL account...other than that, no reason to spend too much time at aol.com! ;-) ps...I'm also an AOL member...but for past 1&1/2 years haven't used AOL as "primary" connection! My daughter won't let me drop AOL, says she has too many online friends! | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:36:50 2000 | Wizard57M> | Currently I use Freewwweb almost exclusively...they accept connections from almost any software! and it's FREE, no ad banners, no surveys, no up-front charge, no special software required! I've even connected on my old PS2, gotten the DOS PPPD drivers loaded, but have a bug in my mail script for sending/receiving email with a simple email client called Netmail for DOS. | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:39:52 2000 | Wizard57M> | I was correct on the AOL Mail from web, Arachne does not yet have the protocol to access it...thought I'd give it a try just to be sure. | |
| Sun Feb 20 03:53:29 2000 | Bob-bo> | Wizard, my kids use AOL, they don't even try to understand our kind of people. I tell them that I use $100 used equipment with Czech software for a $30 fee and I can do whatever they think they can do, maybe more. | |
| Sun Feb 20 06:39:35 2000 | tmptmp> | Bob bo, control/pause quits the program, alt + P gets you onto your carrier after its read your name and password. | |
| Sun Feb 20 07:26:48 2000 | Phobos> | Been a while since I used Arachne, and am very pleasantly surprised with what has been added to it. | |
| Sun Feb 20 07:29:52 2000 | Phobos> | Any idea as to when/if Michael will be working on the NNTP part of it? Nettamer works, but it isn't user friendly for blind/speech compatibilty software to work with. | |
| Sun Feb 20 11:20:49 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo....of course, you knew it would say that ....unless they are claiming to have unlimited bandwidth....<g>..... ..but, I think it will be someday usefull, and right now, for some people, it is exactly what they need.... | |
| Sun Feb 20 11:26:02 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo....(cont)...the web-tv hardware, is not really useful for most people, and they don't know that when they signup/buy equipment....my sister is probably the largest distance-learning professor on the net, and she has numerous students using web-tv....or rather, not getting much use out of web-tv....they have to send in their lessons using email...and answer exams the same way....and it is all a pain in the neck, and they do NOT have any client-end storage... just what they store in their heads after they switch off....<g g g> | |
| Sun Feb 20 13:18:16 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Hi All. I haven't had time to even come online much in the last week or so :-( University restarted on Valentines Day and I've been working (at Domino's) almost every day, so I've been too busy. I just need to organise myself.... I'm using Opera here for now. I just typed in "chat.arachne.cz" and it ended up at "switch.to/arachne" for some reason. (BTW its quite good that; but Jake, I think it would be best to use http://arachne.virtualave.net/cacz.pl since I'll be adding scripting and stuff - for now just redirects using a Location: header.) For extreme beta testers, try http://hoody.penguinpowered.com/cgi-bin/ava/home.pl - which is a beta version of what will be at arachne.virtualave.net/ :) This is actually my linux box (486DX33/16MB RAM/500MB HDD/Slackware 4.0) connected via a 33.6 modem and only online about 4-8 hours/day. :) | |
| Sun Feb 20 14:58:40 2000 http://switch.to/arachne | Jake> | Message received, Hoody -- I'll get the link changed. Don't fancy doing the changes in the archives though. | |
| Sun Feb 20 15:03:38 2000 http://switch.to/arachne | Jake> | Wizard: what funds Freewwweb? In the UK the free ISPs get a cut of the phone charge and any e-commerce spin-offs, but don't impose adverts on every page (apart from one that gives free domain name registering). | |
| Sun Feb 20 15:26:12 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Jake: I'll have a redirector back again. Have to make sure I do the scripting first so as to not have an infinite loop. ;-) | |
| Sun Feb 20 16:21:05 2000 | Lunar> | Bob-bo You mentioned being mouse-free. I use track ball in Arachne. How do you navigate? | |
| Sun Feb 20 19:02:35 2000 | Bob-bo> | Lunar, I use the arrow keys and Tab key. | |
| Sun Feb 20 20:20:47 2000 | Lunar> | I would like to see more hot keys: one for get new mail, one to go to Chat. BTW where is WinterNight these days? | |
| Sun Feb 20 20:23:55 2000 | caverge> | Lunar: Do you actually use ALL the shift Fn keys? You can program them to be hotkeys for anything. | |
| Sun Feb 20 21:02:40 2000 | Bob-bo> | Lunar, caverge, to me, the big advantage to paying the registration fee, is the ability to hotkey the Shft Func keys. | |
| Sun Feb 20 21:34:14 2000 | Wizard57M> | Jake...I don't know for sure how Freewwweb is funded, apart from selling ad space on their homepage. I might have to ask them, haha! Anyhow, so far I've been 100% satisfied with their service. And, without having to load other software like AOL or NetZero's Java monster, I get a bit of extra speed on my dial-up connection! Just an observation, but I would say web pages load twice as fast when compared to AOL or NetZero. | |
| Sun Feb 20 21:38:11 2000 | Wizard57M> | For anyone in USA interested in trying out Freewwweb, navigate to http://www.freewwweb.com then browse around...look for a "Quick Start" page if you decide to try it. You do not have to download any software either, when you are presented with the "Click To Download" page, just write down the little authorization code and go to the sign up page (I think that's the new routine), you also do not need a credit card...use a "dummy" number--4444333322221111 and take it from there. | |
| Sun Feb 20 21:40:22 2000 | Wizard57M> | for all my buds living out of USA, well, currently Freewwweb only has US access numbers, so the telephone charges might offset any savings. Freewwweb says that they support up to 56k modem connections (I don't know for sure though, since the fastest modem I have is only a 33.6) I usually connect at at least 28.8, sometimes 31.2. | |
| Sun Feb 20 21:46:23 2000 | Wizard57M> | another tidbit about Freewwweb---I have an old IBM PS2 5500SX 16mHz 386 with 1 meg RAM, a old USR 2400 baud modem, running on MS DOS 6.22...I got another wild idea, put a simple dialer, minimal email client, and DosLynx text based WWW browser on it. And by golly, I managed to get on the net with it! Even dropped by here, though DosLynx does not support forms, couldn't post messages. If anyone wants more info on my setup on the PS2, just send an email. This could be useful if you have an older PC, maybe old laptop, at least to be able to do your email and some web browsing! | |
| Sun Feb 20 21:50:31 2000 | Lunar> | Cavergr guess I should look at Fn keys ;-) | |
| Mon Feb 21 01:02:05 2000 | Bob-bo> | Lunar, you can edit ARACHNE.CFG to put in anything you want for the Shft Fnc keys if you have the Registration Key. | |
| Mon Feb 21 03:43:49 2000 | mands> | help I need dos please help me | |
| Mon Feb 21 04:44:44 2000 | Jake> | Mands -- you can download DR-DOS (6MB) http://www.lineo.com/download/dr703.exe or ftp://ftp.lineo.com/pub/drdos/DR-DOS.703/dr703.exe | |
| Mon Feb 21 05:38:08 2000 | The Dude> | My arachnomania keys work just fine and my copy's unregistered.... | |
| Mon Feb 21 06:15:58 2000 | blownseal> | Wizard-- I tried freewwweb. I used that number for "login", then was asked for "password" which I didn't have or know. Any suggestions? | |
| Mon Feb 21 06:20:31 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo......you KNOW that gregy's gotta throw his two cents in.....the reason I pay the reg. is so I can sleep nights...well, surf nights/ sleep days......<g>....and I can get active support from arachne.cz, and I know that Michael P. is, at least, getting something for all the work he has done, and is continuing to do.......<no g> | |
| Mon Feb 21 06:33:52 2000 | gregy> | Hoody.....good for you..!!!...if you are not here...you ARE someplace else, and that is probably with your nose to the grindstone...and that is probably where you want to keep it now until you get your Uni out of the way.... ...NOW...FYI....go to http://linux.cnet.com/ and check out the scene...maybe you will want to sign up for the linuxwatch newsletter, ets. | |
| Mon Feb 21 06:36:06 2000 | gregy> | hi..blownseal...long time no chat...how you..?? | |
| Mon Feb 21 07:33:45 2000 | blownseal> | hi gregy--I'm great! I mainly just read the chat--I'm fairly ignorant about cli and all the esoteric but interesting things discussed in this room. | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:23:04 2000 | Wizard57M> | blownseal...I think they were wanting a password they give you after you sign up for the service, something like about 3 letters and 2 numbers, can't remember for sure what is was, like FWDN-12 or something... | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:30:26 2000 | Wizard57M> | blownseal..found it! First, go sign up and create an account at http://autoreg.freewwweb.com, after you send in the info, you get the registration number FWDL-2.1 which you must enter exactly the way they send it to you for it to work | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:32:46 2000 | Wizard57M> | On the next page, instead of clicking "download" just click "Next", and go to a page to set your user name and account password. There you need to use the "dummy credit card number": 4444333322221111 (NO SPACES!!) and then enter the expiration date of 01/01 , then just sit back and wait for Freewwweb to confirm your user name and account and password! | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:34:38 2000 | blownseal> | Thank you Wizard, for checking that out for me! The problem I'm having though is that after I use that number for "login," they ask me for a "password." If I try that # again, I get back "incorrect password." Don't worry, though, Earthlink works good for me. | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:36:30 2000 | Wizard57M> | Dude, my hot keys work also, all the "SHIFT F#" stuff, and my copy isn't registered either. Someone may have a problem in their Arachne setup, seems like a few versions back there was a setting to either enable or disable them...but that was some time ago! | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:37:37 2000 | Wizard57M> | <---just loves freeware, keeps his old DOS machine running that way! ;-) | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:40:24 2000 | Wizard57M> | blown, did you go to the "quick start" page? Try http://www.freewwweb.com/quick/quick.html or I have a text copy of the instructions if you want, could send in email?? | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:43:13 2000 | Wizard57M> | blown...go to that autoreg page...enter the code number in the field where it asks for "Registration Code" that's the FWDL-2.1 , then send that info in and see if you go to page two to fill out your user info | |
| Mon Feb 21 08:45:39 2000 | Wizard57M> | The "login" is your actual name, such as blownseal and the password is whatever you want it to be...that's why when you try to use FWDL-2.1 as user or whatever, Freewwweb rejects it | |
| Mon Feb 21 17:05:14 2000 | blownseal> | Wizard--That quick start page is what I needed--thanks. I'll let you know if I'm smart enough to hook it up. | |
| Mon Feb 21 22:05:02 2000 | T_A_G> | Hey Guys! Anyone else having trouble accessing their mail at Yahoo ? every time I try, I can get into my mail box but as soon as I click to read my mail it logs me out and says "your login session has expired" I try to go back in and it says "Yahoo requires cookies" - never did this before. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP! | |
| Tue Feb 22 03:37:48 2000 | Bob-bo> | T A G, try the R reload a couple of time | |
| Tue Feb 22 03:52:57 2000 | T_A_G> | Thanx Bob-Bo! I'm off to give it a try but I think I've messed up my email account somehow at Yahoo. If I use one of my -alternate- email accounts at Yahoo it lets me in! but if I use I main one, it keeps kicking me off with a "login session expired" or a "verify yahoo password" repeated at me no matter how many times I enter it. It doesn't say password incorrect it just keeps re-sending that screen. I checked the time-zone stats on my alternate accounts that ARE working at Yahoo, and they match, I also checked my "verify password" time frame on all accounts and they also match (set to 1 day) so it's not that. This is getting frustrating, it must be some Yahoo setting on that particular account, that I've set up in a way that is messing with entering my email account, but I can't figure out what the blazes it is. Off to try re-loading with R command thanx for tip! -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 22 03:53:31 2000 | Bob-bo> | Wizard, do your Shift Func keys work with what tou've written in ARACHNE.CFG or with what Michael put in? | |
| Tue Feb 22 03:55:47 2000 | T_A_G> | or perhaps, I wonder if this has something to do with some MORE spam-hacking at Yahoo by the same people that were doing this last week? Musta heard about them, they're the ones that spammed Yahoo, Ebay, Amazon etc, resulting in what are known as "denial of service" attacks. But this is odd, it only happens on 1 of my accounts, and worse still, my MAIN one. Uhg. - TAG | |
| Tue Feb 22 04:15:41 2000 | T_A_G> | No go, it keeps popping back up with "your session has expired, re log back in?" I click to re log back in, and Yahoo goes dead trying to saying 1st "unable to connect" then when I try to go back to the mail login at Yahoo it says "Yahoo requires cookies". Something bonkos going on 'ere. -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 22 04:21:51 2000 | T_A_G> | I got a horrid feeling that Yahoo has changed their cookies to Javascript cookies, in which case Arachne won't be able to log into Yahoo anymore. Can't get in period now, either Yahoo is being spammed to death or cookies just aren't working anymore in Arachne with Yahoo. :( -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 22 04:30:21 2000 | T_A_G> | Yeh - that looks like it, I can't get into ANY of my Yahoo accounts now. Same "session expired" excrement keeps popping up at Yahoo. Looks like Yahoo has changed their cookie format, and we are going to need an upgrade to ARACHNE before we can access our Yahoo mail again. Hope it's just a fluke, and will correct itself shortly, but I have a horrid feeling this is all about Cookie incompatability with Arachne now. -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 22 04:40:39 2000 | T_A_G> | G'FRAGGIN'RAGGIN'NABBIT er, does ANYBODY know where I can get ahold of Windows 3.1 on the WEB? I remember it only being about 10 diskettes which is a max of 10 meg or so, and I'm desperate to get another Browser installed to see what the frag is going on here. I have Windows 95 on my HD, but it WON'T install because it's an OEM version and I'm using a laptop, so no CD. I have Windows 3.1/Windows for Workgroups on CD also, but I can't load it up either, so I really need Windows 3.1 somplace I can download it. :( I know, nobody can 'elp poor ol me cause it's copyrighted software. Life sucks today. -- TAG if anyone stumbles onto Windows 3.1 on the Web please email me at snostorm@colba.net, at least I can still get to that email. -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 22 05:21:50 2000 | YoYo> | Bob-bo, I use shft-Fnc keys for Google, my own linklist and to get mail. Must edit Arachne.cfg by hand, no problem at all (entries are already there, only change the values). | |
| Tue Feb 22 05:23:11 2000 | YoYo> | Bob-bo, BTW, I did not register my copy. | |
| Tue Feb 22 09:06:51 2000 http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ | WinterKnight> | Tag, I couldnt reach any Yahoo E-Mail account as well with Arachne, though that was with version 1.50src and about a year ago. | |
| Tue Feb 22 11:34:45 2000 | Drew> | People! Tell me PLS how can I change charset on a current page in arachne? | |
| Tue Feb 22 15:12:57 2000 11 | Wizard57M> | Bob-bo...I edited my ARACHNE.CFG file by hand, just changed the URLs to where I wanted to go! | |
| Tue Feb 22 15:14:47 2000 11 | Wizard57M> | Tag, WinterKnight...I've had pretty good luck getting my Yahoo email, but I haven't done as well with Excite mail or my Snap mail at EMAIL.COM with Arachne 1.50SRC or 1.60 B1 | |
| Tue Feb 22 15:18:00 2000 | dr Lgal> | Gut qestion DREW! Probably is only one solution: 1. Press <F4> 2. Edit <META charset=.....> | |
| Tue Feb 22 15:27:18 2000 http://hoody.penguinpowered.com/cgi-bin/ava/home.pl | Hoody> | My AVA (arachne.virtualave.net) site is coming along. I still want to test it before I upload it to its real home so it's still only on my linux httpd. I'm getting quite advanced! <G> I even have a style sheet [only to set the font-family to sans-serif, and a margin as 0 since thats the only way Opera recognises a 0 pixel margin] The Love and Hate Lists are up (without moderation code though) - but anything you submit will probably not be included in the final home unless I could be bothered uploading all the data files as well. You can even create yourself an account... But since the "server" is very slow (for a webserver) sendmail takes about 20 seconds to send your password (while you're waiting for the HTTP response). And thats at 100% CPU too - but I use it for a couple of user things too... | |
| Tue Feb 22 15:29:27 2000 http://hoody.penguinpowered.com/cgi-bin/ava/home.pl | Hoody> | <<<TESTING>>> This = that | |
| Tue Feb 22 15:30:32 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Well that went quite well. I was just trying something wrt the 11 problem... & ampersand | |
| Tue Feb 22 16:23:45 2000 | dr Lgal> | I muss go on lesson. Bis bald! Bonan tagon! | |
| Tue Feb 22 16:43:56 2000 | T_A_G> | Hi Guys! That's strange eh? (Wizard and WinterKnight) some people can access their Yahoo mail with Arachne and some people can't. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the -new- cookies Yahoo is using being incompatible with Arachne. But you never know, it may clear up. :) - I'm using the latest version of Arachne. WINDOWS update: Well, I might be able to re-install Windows 95 from my HD! turns out that my OEM version was deliberately shipped WITHOUT the Windows 95 Setup.exe file, so that's why I can't re-install it. I need to get ahold of it. I'm trying but so far everyone says "Don't you have a friend with Windows 95 you could get it from?" which begs the question "if I did, would I be asking for it?" :( I'm still trying to find someone that could email me the Windows 95 Setup.exe and Setup.txt files, so far, no luck. Sooooooooooooooo close, and yet sooooooooo far. -- TAG snostorm@colba.net | |
| Tue Feb 22 19:08:45 2000 http://wizard57m.homepage.com/index.html | Wizard57M> | Hoody...I'd have to say your Virtual Avenue page is coming along nicely! Great job! Only problem I had was with a script somewhere, but that is the fault of the browser I'm using currently...I'm at work on a WIN31 machine with MSIE3.03 f/WIN3X, it doesn't do well on all scripts. I'll have to check it out in Arachne 1.60B1 when I get home later today! If anyone clicks on the link below my name, be patient...HomePage.com is a very slow server, and it will probably take some time to load. For sort of a "mirror", go to http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/wizard57m/index.html, it loads up from there a bit faster! | |
| Tue Feb 22 19:13:15 2000 11 | Wizard57M> | Or (dare I say it??) if you are running Windows and you have a sound card, my old page can be located at http://members.aol.com/Wizard57M/wizard1.htm or http://hometown.aol.com/Wizard57M/wizard1.htm, use the second URL if running MSIE/NetScape 4 or higher. And, my "alter ego" has a page at AOL, go to http://members.aol.com/GLENNRPH/glennrph.htm or http://hometown.aol.com/GLENNRPH/glennrph.htm , also the 2 sites have links to each other. | |
| Tue Feb 22 23:11:27 2000 | blownseal> | Wizard--I was able to get registered w/freewwweb. I even wrote and asked them if I could use it with Win 3.1. They wrote back saying no, but the next day they wrote back and said I could. Now the only problem is that I don't seem to have a dialer that will work for freewwweb. Terminal won't, and my Earthlink dialer doesn't. | |
| Tue Feb 22 23:15:01 2000 | blownseal> | They sent me a link to that quick start page that you had given me. Of course, it's always possible that those dialers would work if I knew how to configure them properly. | |
| Wed Feb 23 01:08:18 2000 | T_A_G> | Hey Blownseal! What's the prob with the dialer? If it's a need for phone number seperators with a special phone commands to dial out, like star commands, you can prefix phone numbers with the star commands like "*67,555-5555" the comma acts as a 1 second pause, if star commands don't work with "*" you can replace * with "11" so star 67 would be "1167,55-5555" - if it's a problem connecting then it's probably the primary and secondary DNS need to be set for Freewwweb as well as setting your home page in your browser to freewwweb. If you go to the Quick start page you'll find the info on DNS, etc, if you -haven't- manually entered all of the items listed on the page, you need to do that else it won't connect properly. I made a checklist of all the info it tells you to set under the "Already have a browser" Link section and manually did each one. Best way to be sure you got everything. hope it helps TAG Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Earth, Sometimes. | |
| Wed Feb 23 02:36:51 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody.USQ> | Well I'm on a WNT4 computer at uni now... Have to use IE5. I will be back online with my own computers about 1200 GMT :-) Wizard57M: homepage.com doesn't seem all that slow. Maybe its just your link? (or between your ISP and that company). Traceroute from www.questnet.net.au (my uni's "ISP") was only like 12 hops. BTW did you try the penguinpowered site or the virtualave site? The latest version will always be on the penguinpowered site since thats actually my own linux box (connected to the internet via a 33.6 modem) but I can only be online 4-8 hours a day since I only have one phone line. (But my ISP is unlimited hours which is still quite rare in Australia - at least my city) | |
| Wed Feb 23 11:47:52 2000 | Romash> | Ira, kak tol'ko pojavishsja, daj znat' na pager. | |
| Wed Feb 23 12:34:59 2000 | Roma> | Gde ghe ty, gde? | |
| Wed Feb 23 13:05:32 2000 http://www.100000dreams.net/index_en.html | soojin> | Hello! Let me introduce one site. | |
| Wed Feb 23 13:36:58 2000 | dr Lgal> | Szto wy gawaritie, riebiata?? | |
| Wed Feb 23 15:08:33 2000 | blownseal> | Thanks TAG! The problem is that I can't find where to set the primary and secondary DNS, etc. in my dialer. The dialer came from Earthlink and maybe they don't allow access to change those settings. Also, in Terminal (I use Windows 3.1), I can't find how to set and change those settings. I can dial and reach Freewwweb, but I think I need a more "configurable" dialer. | |
| Wed Feb 23 16:56:17 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | blownseal: Terminal is not a dialler! (It can dial and do stuff with the modem but to do any kind of TCP/IP you yourself will have to type pretty fast <G>. Whatever you type into Terminal (except things like menu commands) goes straight to the modem, and whatever comes from the modem goes straight to the screen. So you'll need a 'real' dialler, and PPP driver etc. The 3 most used ones seem to be Trumpet, IEDIAL and the Netscape one. AFAICT you can't get the netscape one anymore, and you need to have IE3 to use IEDIAL. Trumpet is good if you know what your doing, except it's time-limited shareware. HTH | |
| Wed Feb 23 17:44:37 2000 | blownseal> | Hoody--I thought when I installed my previous version of Navigator that it warned me not to have two versions of Trumpet winsock. My Earthlink dialer is a 'real' one. I just don't know how, or even if I can, configure it to connect with freewwweb. Also, if I downloaded and installed a new dialer, I wouldn't want it to conflict with my Earthlink dialer--then I wouldn't be able to get on-line and watch the Arachnoids chat, etc. | |
| Wed Feb 23 19:54:05 2000 | Jake> | The dialer with IE3 works with all my Win3.1x browsers and is a piece of p*ss to set up. A couple of guys on the mail list have got hold of it recently and I'm told you can install it by itself -- but we need someone to tell us what files are used so a dialer-only package can be passed around. I suppose I could uninstall IE3, but I'm not sure what files would be left in Windows\System. | |
| Wed Feb 23 23:54:52 2000 | T_A_G> | Howdy Blownseal! Been awhile since I manually configured trumpet with Win 3.1, and boy do I wish I had that now! - my Windows 95 is wiped from a virus :( Anyway, if I recall correctly you can change your settings by clicking on the Trumpet icon. If a trumpet icon isn't on any of your Windows, you can try running it manually using the "run" command or you can have Windows scan your hard-drive for "NEW" programs to add, it will detect Trumpet and ask you if you want it added to a menu. However, if you change the settings in Trumpet you will lose your other ISP connect'ability, since that's what it's set for now. What you could try is to download Arachne it has its own DOS based PPP dialer that will not conflict with your Windows settings, I can't guarantee that Arachne will work with freewwweb (has anyone tried?) but I can guarantee you that it WON'T mess up your already established settings. It's an independent DOS based Web Browser with PPP dialer built in. If you want to try it: What I would suggest is that you use your Netscape/Ie to register your account at Freewwweb and get your username and password, once that is done, then try to connect using Arachne by setting the DNS etc for freewwweb in her. Good Luck! -- TAG | |
| Thu Feb 24 00:01:18 2000 | T_A_G> | ||
| Thu Feb 24 00:06:21 2000 | T_A_G> | WAAAAAAAAAAAA - I still can't get into my Yahoo mail, this is day 3 now. This Week is going down as my "Week of Web HELL" :( | |
| Thu Feb 24 01:09:34 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody.USQ> | blownseal: Is Earthlink an ISP-supplied dialler, or something else? If its an ISP-supplied one maybe you can't use it with any other ISP. Is true you shouldn't have more than one WINSOCK.DLL file since different diallers use different versions of this file. You could setup a batch file to copy files around the place, for the new dialler. But that probably isn't all that good. :) FWIW when I use my own laptop (which is connected to my linux box with a null-modem cable, and pppd on the linux box makes it look like its on the local lan) I use the DOS packet driver with arachne, and then use arachne with Connection Ready, or load winpkt.com (before going into windows) and make Trumpet use the 0x60 instead of the comm port itself. The advantage is it can use environment variables. | |
| Thu Feb 24 01:13:00 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody.USQ> | Jake: I did have the IE3 dialler on my laptop for a while, and I was experimentally moving files away to see if I could delete them and save a couple of meg. It was well over a year ago, but I remember that you couldn't delete many of the IE files and keep the dialler; they use many shared libraries. | |
| Thu Feb 24 01:21:49 2000 http://www.lphs.school.nz/ | The Dude> | I used to use the IE dialler - but then I discovered it was incompatible with ICQ. I have both on my system, because for downloads with Getright, the IE dialler is faster, but Trumpet Winsock works fine for everything else. BTW www.trumpet.com.au for anyone who wants do download it. It also has a section for packet vector or something - possibly a way for Arachne and Windows to coexist? I haven't played with it. Perhaps if you loaded Arachne, dialled, quit Arachne and then loaded windows, if your settings were right your internet would work in both DOS shells and windows? I don't know. I can't even get Arachne to connect under DOS anymore. | |
| Thu Feb 24 01:58:00 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody.USQ> | The Dude: Yes thats what I was saying. But you'll need a "glue" between the packet driver and Trumpet. Thats winpkt.com. Only sometimes can you still use the packet driver with Arachne after exiting windows. I haven't tried using Arachne from within windows to see if its possible. | |
| Thu Feb 24 03:26:35 2000 | Wizard57M> | TAG and BlownSeal...YES!! You can connect to Freewwweb with the Arachne dialer!! That'w what I do from home all the time! I have also been successful in connecting to Freewwweb in WIN3X, WIN95 and in MS DOS 6.22 on an ancient IBB PS2 5500 SX 16mHz 386 with a whopping 1 meg RAM!! On it I use "NetDial", "NetMail" by Marc Ressl, and DosLynx...It aint fast, but it gets/sends mail pretty good, surfing is slow, but that's because my old modem on PS2 is only 2400 baud! | |
| Thu Feb 24 03:31:00 2000 | Wizard57M> | All of the software I use on the PS2 for web connecting is freeware also! Also, TAG, I think Yahoo has been having some server problems, quite a few (myself too) folks I know have been having trouble accessing "My Yahoo" | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:00:05 2000 | Danielle> | hi, love u folks | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:06:15 2000 | Jake> | Ah shucks Danielle, someone has to. xxx | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:10:33 2000 | Danielle> | hi, My husband comes to check this site all the time, and i just love ya. | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:18:22 2000 | Danielle > | ||
| Thu Feb 24 04:33:06 2000 | Bob-bo> | I, rather listem to Danielle tham al this IE and NT and other Windoze stuff that's been on here. | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:35:21 2000 | glenn> | Hello all | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:35:58 2000 | Jake> | Are you Danielle's husband Bob-bo? | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:36:34 2000 | glenn> | just wanted to say I love arachne | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:37:58 2000 | glenn> | DOS and arachne are a waste on my systems full capabilities, but anything beats windoze | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:39:21 2000 | glenn> | oh well, bye!! | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:48:07 2000 | Bob-bo> | No to Jake's Q. Hi Glenn, I do too. | |
| Thu Feb 24 04:57:34 2000 | Jake> | Which of us is married to Danielle then? Gregy? Have you been back to Iceland as a tourist Bob-bo? | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:23:52 2000 | gregy> | no, Jake, last time I check I was still married to Tongdang....so, must be some other fella ... <g> | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:40:52 2000 | gregy> | BTW....I don't think you can "pass around" the NetDial from W31 distribution.....if I remember rightly, it is a DLL (or has a DLL)....at least that is what I saw being installed.....BUT... if you have it (with W31, or course) it seems to work with anything you want to use it with.... as long it they are all running on W31...<vsg> | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:41:00 2000 | Jake> | Hmmm... Danielle sounds French. Maybe Clarence in Canada? If it's not somebody we know, I wonder how many "lurkers" are hiding in the shadows? | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:44:11 2000 | Jake> | Yep, there'll be at least winsock.dll. But the point is that Win3.1is short of dialers, and Tpt is not free nor easy. Operasoftware keep saying they'll include a dialer, but they only include half a mail client! (send only). | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:52:51 2000 | gregy> | TAG......I just went to my MyYahoo, and then to my YahooMail...50sec/55sec page load time respectively....donno why you are having trouble with your Arachne on you account...???? | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:55:54 2000 | gregy> | Jake....but Win3.1 is what I'm talking about.. the NetDial client is included with the W31 download, and it will work with anything,... because it just dials and then steps out to the way for you to fire up anything else you want, after it has stepped aside... | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:57:54 2000 | gregy> | re..."lurkers"....I am often a lurker here...I just zip past to do a quick check, without doing any chatting.....<g> | |
| Thu Feb 24 05:59:37 2000 | gregy> | ...and I'll bet that ANY app will run on Win31 after you have first used NetDial to dialup... | |
| Thu Feb 24 06:03:29 2000 | gregy> | ....it is like the Arachne distribution dialer, Miniterm.....it will dial any-old-way, anywhere, then step aside and let you fire up anything else that you want to.....FTP, Telnet, etc, etc.. | |
| Thu Feb 24 06:06:19 2000 | gregy> | ....hhmmmmnnn...no, Danielle sounded "suthrun" ..."deep south" "southern belle"........<g> ....so her husband has to be likewise....now who, on this chat, or on the list, speaks with a drawwwwwwwlll.....????? | |
| Thu Feb 24 06:34:04 2000 | Jake> | Sorry, I took it that you meant NetDial was the IE3 dialer. So, remind me where NetDial comes from, please. I've just done a search for Win3.1x spreadsheets -- that one the other week seems about all there is, and there's very little Help, so I'm going to look at As-Easy-As (but it's not freeware). I found a Polish programmable calculator I couldn't find a live link for about a year ago. | |
| Thu Feb 24 11:41:26 2000 | YoYo> | Jake: I've tried that Sphygmic Spreadsheet, but when using the 'draw-button', the program quits without saving anything. Says it needs a apiguide.dll. Do you have the same problems? Or do you know where to find that DLL? | |
| Thu Feb 24 11:43:56 2000 | YoYo> | As-Easy-As is great, but not cheap. I still have the Lotus SmartSuite, but that requires Win9x or NT4. | |
| Thu Feb 24 13:57:58 2000 | YoYo> | Next saturday Danielle & me are married for 4 years! Always busy on pooter together! | |
| Thu Feb 24 14:00:21 2000 | YoYo> | Uh, not only that. There are other things that we do too. | |
| Thu Feb 24 14:06:18 2000 | Lunar> | Has anyone ever heard of PFS: First Choice? I have used Version 3.5 (For DOS) for several years. From Spinnaker. Has Word Processor, Database, Spreadsheet, Graphs, FAX. Bought it from Surplus Software, so prpbably no longer available. | |
| Thu Feb 24 14:35:25 2000 | Bob-bo> | Lunar, I.m still using the original version of FIRST CHOICE, love it. I also have used FIRST PUBLISHER. | |
| Thu Feb 24 17:35:50 2000 | T_A_G> | Hi Guys! Wizard: re; Arachne will work with Freeweb and PS2's Fantastic! I was hoping that. The reg page has javascript, so we need to use a different browser to set up an account but if we can connect and surf with Arachne on freewwweb, that's great! just need to pop into a library to use a jacascript browser to set up an account. P.S: I have a PS/2 Model 50z and Model 70 in my collection o PCs, love em. Only annoying bit was that Microchannel architecture was soooooooo expensive to get cards for! | |
| Thu Feb 24 17:43:59 2000 | T_A_G> | Hey Gregy! You're using latest version of Arachne and you can get to your Yahoo email? RattinFrattin...that's the same setup I have, but everytime I try to get to my Yahoo mail, one of 2 things will happen. Either it will let me into my mailbox and load up the page listing what mail is there, but the minute I press my Inbox it LOGS ME OUT and says "session expired - relog back in?" I click to and it won't let me back in. Or I don't even get INTO my mailbox and it keeps sending the "verify password" screen over and over again. It doesn't say "password incorrect" btw, it just keeps sending that screen, over and over. :( I haven't been able to get to my Yahoo mail with Arachne for 4days now. It WILL let me log into other Yahoo features like MyYahoo, Auctions, etc but never my mail, even when I try to get to it from another Yahoo page like the link on MyYahoo, same problem keeps occuring, re-sending of verify-password page or logs me in, and times me out immediately. Think it has something to do with cookies, that's all I can think of. | |
| Thu Feb 24 17:52:22 2000 | T_A_G> | Hey BlowSeal! There ya go, use Arachne in DOS to call Freewwweb, Wizard has confirmed it works! Setting up DNS, mail account etc in Arachne is real EASY btw, no major headaches there at all, all the settings are HTML (web) pages that Arachne has built in for changing those settings. In fact first time you run it, it will prompt you for all that info you need to enter, anyway, so it's as easy as 1-2-3 to setup and get going. Also Arachne is an under 2 meg download and everything is included that you need. Just use your Netscape or IE to surf onto the freewwweb page first to set yourself up with an account and password, then exit windows and run Arachne to connect to the freewwweb ISP und voila. That'll do it! -- TAG Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Earth, Sometimes. | |
| Thu Feb 24 18:03:02 2000 http://www.freedos.org/projects/links.html | T_A_G> | Btw: DOS stuff - good place I found: www.freedos.org/projects/links.html | |
| Thu Feb 24 19:26:55 2000 | blownseal> | Thanks TAG! I downloaded Arachne 1.60 awhile ago, but I can't use it unless I get a "real" modem. I have an RPI 14.4 modem which requires drivers for correction, etc. I'm down here in Rochester with the Americans, which is totally unrelated, but I should mention that they have won 7 in a row. | |
| Thu Feb 24 20:00:28 2000 | T_A_G> | 7 in a Row, Blownseal? Astounding! Gonna be a Party 2night! und now, a musical interlude, on account of my attempts to get to my yahoo mail have met with repeated failure. Ergo, I am bored and shall regail you all with my singing. (oh no) Hunh-Hunh-Hem. Du Du Hast Du Hast Mich Du Hast Mich Gefragt Du Hast Mich Gefragt Und Ich Hab Nichts Gesagt Willst Du Bis Der Rod Euch Scheide Treu Ihr Sein Fur Alle Tage NEIN! Willst Du Bis Der Sie Lieben Auch In Schlecten Tagen NEIN! DU HAST - RAMMSTEIN *\/\/iggle-Eyebrows* -- TAG Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Earth, Sometimes. | |
| Thu Feb 24 20:06:25 2000 | T_A_G> | P.S: Congrats YoYo und Danielle! a sustained relationship with people that actually display they like eachother STILL? WOW! Who woulda thunked that still went on :) Happy Anniversary und Many Many More! P.S: Danielle 'ave a sister? :) -- TAG Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Earth, Sometimes. | |
| Thu Feb 24 22:32:37 2000 | Wizard57M> | TAG--yep, I agree with ya on the MCA stuff with PS2, very expensive, locked into only IBM as supplier! Even RAM! Jeez! Lunar & Bob-Bo--I've been using Spinnaker's Eight In One for DOS for several years (too many, it's like from 1989, hahaha) has word processor ,terminal, spreadsheet, database/address book, calendar/to-do list, memo...only problem is it is not Y2K compatible with the calendar and memo part...ah well, que sera sea! Have also used Spinnaker's PFS:WindowWorks on a WIN3X machine at work, sort of a MS Works clone...not bad either! Yo-Yo--Happy Anniversary Bud! ;-) | |
| Fri Feb 25 02:14:47 2000 | YoYo> | T A G : Thanks, we do love each other and we are best friends. It's rare and we both know that and are very lucky. Bummer, she has no sister. Wiz: Thanks too. | |
| Fri Feb 25 06:28:45 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....disregard TAG...he's awful...he was after me for one of my nieces,..until I told him she was only 7.....then he said he'd wait......he's a "terrible Quebeque terrorist"......<vbg to you TAG>>> | |
| Fri Feb 25 06:55:30 2000 | gregy> | Jake....I apologize...I have miscommunicated... I have called it "NetDial client"....well I couldn't remember what the stupid thing's name was....it is on the other C:\ partition, which is always hidden when I'm normally surfing... I only reboot to that partition when I need to compare WzMz stuff, so I couldn't just look at it and enter it's name here... ...what i am talking about is the normal IE3 "connect to" client (now, isn't THAT a name that really turns you on....??)...this is the client that "Internet Connect Wizard" sets up and plops down in any folder where you tell it to...after it has been set up....I have these little things in several folders, and, when I begin to use my 56K line, I will have two-each in both my IE3 and NetComm4.08 folders....and any more that I might want to spread around...it is ONE of the nifty things I find about Win31.... ...these dial clients seem to work with ANYTHING and just step back aside once they have dialed and connected to you ISP....then you can do just about anything you want after that....they'll just set there and maintain your connection until the cows come home.... | |
| Fri Feb 25 06:59:26 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....Jake was trying to accuse my of being married to Danielle....I told him "other fella" ..<g> ...congradulations....just stay friends, and keep on fightin' fair....and God bless you.... | |
| Fri Feb 25 07:03:37 2000 | gregy> | TAG.....I am going to go to Yahoo and see if I can make the thing do what it is doing to you.. ...one thought....ANYTIME I have ever logged on to MyYahoo...I tell it to "remember me" and then I don't have to log into my Mail account...BUT I haven't been using my mail account there, since I get most of my mail at my ISP account.. BUT...whenever I logon to Yahoo, I must "R" the page after logon....do you do this too....??? | |
| Fri Feb 25 08:42:37 2000 | gregy> | TAG....about the only thing I can suggest for your Yahoo mail, is to go into your Account Information and make sure that you are set for "check password daily" instead of "15min" or something else.... ...also, maybe, when you sign in, check the box "remember my password" just to the left above the "SUBMIT" button, before you click the button I just sent myself a Yahoo Mail message, then went to get it, and after I signed into MyYahoo and selected the CheckEmail, everything went right through smooth....they never asked me to verify my password or anything..... ....I remember, once, that this ask to verify password/then timeout, happened to me way back 3-months ago, when I first signed up, and I did something to make them stop verifying, or to change the timeout interval, or something...I don't remember what.....but....DO wait to load the whole YahooMail page, before you click the "inbox" link....maybe, you aren't picking up a cookie that you need...???....if you still have problems....(I hate to even suggest it, but <g>) read the Help, and if still having problems, send them a trouble report...they are usually very good about replying.....though sometimes they only refer you to one of the Help sections, to reread something that you missed.. | |
| Fri Feb 25 08:48:11 2000 | gregy> | TAG...another thought....since it isn't Yahoo, and it isn't Arachne, and you USED TO be able to get your mail.....WHAT did YOU do to your setup recently....????....I find that the most of my problems are just Operator Malfunction... ...so...start asking yourself what changes YOU have made recently....and then change those changes back to where they were..... | |
| Fri Feb 25 14:51:09 2000 http://i.am/hoody | Hoody> | Lunar: I have a program by Spinnaker ... Eight in One. Its not very good (eg you can't have underline and bold at the same time) Mum got it when she bought the 386 new. :) I have also used First Choice at school on the bunch of 286's. I didn't know it was made by the same company though. | |
| Fri Feb 25 16:54:21 2000 | Lunar> | Hoody: A school near here used an early version of First Choice, there were a lot of pirated copies around. When I saw 3.5 on sale I bought. Mostly to get the book, it is better I think. I can control my Epson printer by using *Pxxx* within a document. | |
| Fri Feb 25 20:20:23 2000 | blownseal> | Arachnoid, good news! I have connected using freewwweb, which I am using right now. I deviously got the dialer from a Prodigy Internet CD by installing MSIE 5 (which is slow as molasses). Thanks for all your help! | |
| Fri Feb 25 20:21:22 2000 | blownseal> | Make that Arachnoids (plural). | |
| Fri Feb 25 20:22:02 2000 | blownseal> | I hope you don't mind being called that--it's meant as a compliment. | |
| Fri Feb 25 20:26:58 2000 | blownseal> | I'm using Navigator 4.08--I will grudgingly leave MSIE 5 on my hard drive so I don't lose or screw up the dialer, but I'll keep using Netscape Navigator (Communicator) 4.08--it works great with Win 3.1 with 20 MB RAM. | |
| Fri Feb 25 20:30:06 2000 | blownseal> | If I ever get a "real" modem, one that doesn't use software for erroe correction, I'll try Arachne 1.60 too. I probably wouldn't know enough to use it effectively, though. I may have been spoiled by GUI's. | |
| Fri Feb 25 21:22:40 2000 | cheebed> | Does Arachne Work with HIS (Home Internet Solution) ? It would be great if these two would like themselves... | |
| Sat Feb 26 01:08:01 2000 | Bob-bo> | T A G, If you set up your Yahoo! e-mail with a Windoze browser that may be the problem. I'd try as a new customer, from DOS/Arachne and login a new account with a different ID | |
| Sat Feb 26 01:11:59 2000 | Bob-bo> | Danielle, HAPPY ANNIVERVERY, as Soojin knows, this is the year of the Golden Dragon. This means good luck for you. | |
| Sat Feb 26 01:15:52 2000 | Bob-bo> | cheebed, I didn't have any problem bringing up HIS with Arachne. | |
| Sat Feb 26 02:49:36 2000 http://nimnet.asn.au/~kali | Kali> | Anyone please..... Am I just being clumbsy and hitting alt/T sometimes, or is there a bug in the Arachne 1.6 mailler..... after about a page the word wrap suddenly stops working and when I toggle it and fiddle it sort of starts working again. What is going on? | |
| Sat Feb 26 04:38:57 2000 | Lunar> | Kali: I'm still using 1.5 (to lazy to upgrade) I have same problem at times. | |
| Sat Feb 26 06:12:26 2000 | gregy> | yeh...Bob-bo....that may be TAG's problem...I never thought of that....I set up my Yahoo accounts with Arachne....I just signon once in a while, if I happen to be surfing with one of the big-blowsers.....well, at least he has a bunch of thoughts/suggestions to try out...<g> | |
| Sat Feb 26 06:20:36 2000 | gregy> | blownseal.....don't apologize....we all know we are a bunch of dedicated "spyders"....<g>...and maybe, someday, you will have the privilige and joy of joinging us...<g>..... ...BTW....you say you got the IE5 off a Prodigy CD...??? I have been trying for two weeks to get the stupid M$ server to download the IE5 package to me....maybe I can find a Prodigy CD and get it there....??????? | |
| Sat Feb 26 07:05:39 2000 | gregy> | blownseal.......FYI...Arachne IS a GUI...and a superior one, at that.....I can do more with my Arachne GUI than I can with any other GUI in the sight.....the only other one, that even comes close, is the GUI on my OS/2.....and I use both of them Arachne AND OS/2) together.. ...I have NN4.08 on Win31 /w 32Mb and it isn't hopeless, except for the stupid crosshatch they have as background for their toolbars/sidebarsm but for shear "productivity" this Arachne cannot be beat.... ...you might want to just fire up the 160b1 in a MSDOS fullscreen prompt box on your W31, and play with it some.....look at the "hotkeys" (K key on the kybd) and editing keys, etc...I have been using it online, now, for 3-months, and I have almost forgotten my OS/2 <g g g> ...the only thing I won't do, it two things at once....which suits me fine....if I want to do "multitasking" I, MYSELF, will stop a process and start another, then come back to the first one, then to another, then back, then etc...not some, so-called "multitasking scheduler"..... | |
| Sat Feb 26 07:09:12 2000 | gregy> | boy..!!!...this web is overload/sluggish tonight ....all those crazy Americans wildly surfing all over the globe.....<g> | |
| Sat Feb 26 07:49:02 2000 | Jake> | Mornin' Gregy! (Is it after midnight yet for you?) Yesterday British Telecom had a crash that knocked out I think 1/3rd of locall/freecall services -- including ISPs. No new mail for me today :-( I've been invited to be part of a 1000-user trial of the first UK flat-rate ISP. A bit less than U$40 per month, 24/7 access. 1-1/2 hours online per day and I save money (Easy!). I don't look at PC magazines much these days (none of 'em keep more than a tiny corner of their CDs for a bit of 16-bit software) ... BUT you will see IE5 on 'em. Wish I could find some pre-'95 CDs... | |
| Sat Feb 26 07:51:05 2000 | blownseal> | gregy-- You should have seen what I went through to get Netscape 4.08 (fortunately I wasn't downloading it with an M$ browser, because those browsers coincidentally don't allow downloads the size of Netscape browser files). Anyhow, it was a 17 MB file, over 4 hours to download, and when I went to find it, it wasn't there!! Fortunately, I remained calm, went to "undelete" and found it there in "good" condition (maybe Viruscan Vshield hid it there?)and restored it. I installed it, and it works great! I have other similar stories. I have two numbers for Prodigy--1-888-232-5513 and 1-800-213-0992. The packaging says it is for Win 3.1 or Mac and that is has IE 4.5, but when I installed it, it installed IE 5 At the top of the browser page it says "Provided by Prodigy," and Prodigy is the default home page, but I was able to change that when I was playing around with it. I can't use it, because my 45Mhz 486 is too slow for it. | |
| Sat Feb 26 08:11:51 2000 | Jake> | Hmmm. These big companies need to get back to the real world and divide their offerings into floppy-sized chunks for downloading and transporting. They may want us all to have T-lines and zipdrives BUT .... | |
| Sat Feb 26 08:13:55 2000 | blownseal> | I don't know if you would run into problems using a browser specific to an ISP like Prodigy. Since I only needed the dialer, it's not really a problem for me. I just let IE5 sit there like a big pig taking up hard drive space and using system resources. But it's worth it to have the dialer. | |
| Sat Feb 26 08:17:14 2000 | Jake> | On the UK magazine CDs we may get an ISP package from one or two of the remaining pay-ISPs and a separate AOL disk, but there are also the "unbranded-by-ISP" latest big browsers, including Netscape for Linux. Opera appears when there's a new realease -- but it's something they could include every month. Arachne too. | |
| Sat Feb 26 08:24:55 2000 | Jake> | Blownseal: Gregy and others have downloaded IE3 just to get the dialer. If you choose the install without Java Virtual Machine or mail client it MAY fit on one floppy. But the whole caboodle fits on 3 (I think) and gives you the option of custom-installing any of the components. Get it from: www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/ie3sp1_win16/en/ie3sp1_win16.htm Sorry, checked my notes -- you have to download the Java with all the packages, so Typical or Full Install is needed to get the dialer. Full includes the mail client (which I don't like and I hear isn't Y2K compliant). | |
| Sat Feb 26 09:07:41 2000 | blownseal> | Yes, I've noticed that everything is bundled up pretty tightly on IE5. I tried "rem"ing out some lines in autoexec and win.ini to gain back some virtual memory. It worked, but then I couldn't use Netscape. I should have said before that IE5 sits there like a "fat" pig, not a "big" pig, taking up hard drive space and system resources. The dialer works fine, though, except if I leave the password out so that it has to be entered manually each time, the dialog box that asks for the password closes before I can type and submit my password and then I get disconnected, so I have to leave the password in all the time. I've had worse problems. | |
| Sat Feb 26 09:13:09 2000 | blownseal> | Good night, Arachnoids! | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:02:46 2000 | Jake> | An hour and a half later I return (panting) from M$. I thought I ought to have the whole MSIE3 for posterity and then tried to find Y2K updates. Crap site takes ages to find nuffink. I'd been told by H-J in Germany that the mail client wasn't Y2K-OK, but only found that the German version of IE3 as a whole is not OK. Then their Win3.1x active server page of results won't go beyond page 1 of 3 due to their use of JavaScript. | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:18:10 2000 | gregy> | Jake...!!!..long time no chat.....I'm glad you had a similar experience with the Mz sites that I consistently have.....<vsg> | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:27:14 2000 | gregy> | blownseal.....what Jake told you about get the IE3 for its dialer is, IMO, the straight scoop. I have just spent 2-weeks trying to get that Mz d/l server to d/l IE5 to me, and tonight I find that, thank God, it wouldn't..... ...I just spent 3-4 hours investigating Mz's ActiveX Setup.exe....and I am not paranoid, but it is not something I want ANYWHERE close to my computer.....just before I came on here, I was shutting IE3 & Win31 down, and, AFTER I had closed IE3 down, I found an opened page STILL opened on my machine.....no IE3, no ISP connect, just this opened page, using somekind of hook to Win31....I wouldn't have noticed it except I am canny and ALWAYS check my OS for funny stuff before shutting down...imagine my rage, when I CTRL-ESC and see the bugger "sitting there" ....man...it really MAKES me gratefull for this lovely little Arachne.......<vbg> | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:31:39 2000 | gregy> | sooooooo....Jake, thanks for the resource hints on where to get IE5, but NO THANKS....I don't think I'lll.....well, now wait a minute....my OS/2 may be able to block this kind of stuff.. I'll have to check it out....I really need to run that winbloat stuff, and if there are ways to violate its presumptiousness, then I can find them, or write them, and spread the word...<vBg> | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:36:53 2000 | gregy> | ..blownseal...Jake.....the IE3 won't fit on one floppy, I think...it unzips to 4 each CABs plus some smaller files, and installs into all its directories at 8Mb plus....(that is with full install)....maybe the "BASIC" install will just barely fit on one floppy..... | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:50:28 2000 http://userpages.chorus.net/mtch | Jondo> | I've been wanting to try the stub32 for Arachne. Does anyone know where I can find it? | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:50:37 2000 | gregy> | boy...Jake...your ISP charges are sure high... is that because of BPO's sole-source monopoly, or what....???....hope your new trial service turns out good for you....that rate you quoted isn't too farfetched...24/7 X 1 1/2 hr = 10.5hr ..10 x 4 = $40....about $4 per hour / 60 =~= to $0.68 per min. which isn't too bad.... | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:53:56 2000 | gregy> | Jake....by the way...maybe you should kinda watch out for that IE4 sesetup.exe for install the new 129byte encryption....it installs that onto IE3, and it is one of those ActiveX type install-vermin....<no grin> | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:56:25 2000 | gregy> | hi...Jondo....missed your post there for a few minutes.... ...someone on the list said recently that the stub32 was somewhere around on the Arachne d/l page... | |
| Sat Feb 26 10:57:03 2000 | Jake> | Yep: we want the dialer by itself. Surely THAT fits on a floppy. It was Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen who told me of the IE3 mail problem. I've just been back to M$ with IE3 for 3/4 hour. I'm glad they're not responsible for giving emergency medical advice! Utter crap CRAP CRAAAPPP with dead links and 50kB pages leading to 60kB pages that tell nuffink. However did I find the Y2K update for FileManager? | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:04:42 2000 | gregy> | Jake....what File Manager y2k update...??? | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:05:09 2000 | Jake> | No plans for IE4 or "above" as I have "only" 12MB. BTW: 1-1/2 hours x 30 days = 45 hours. U$40 / 45 = U$0.89 per hour = 1.5 cents per minute (actually less) -- that's phone charge + ISP but not phone line rental). | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:07:08 2000 | gregy> | Jake...did you get the whole IE3 down...??? ..if not, I've got it on my HDD and maybe can u/l it someway to you.....?? | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:08:25 2000 | gregy> | yeh....I see...I haven't counted my own phone line charges into my calc..... | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:09:27 2000 | Jake> | Win3.1x FileManager displays Year 2000 incorrectly. You'll find the link mentioned either in early January Chat or the mail list archive. T_A_G the terrorist wants Win3.11 and I'm thinking of uploading it this weekend. But I don't know if zipping the floppy contents and supplying the floppy labels will work (...and I don't mean fake sticky labels). | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:10:46 2000 | gregy> | yes...I see....I didn't know you were having to pay chrg+ISP for each online minute before, then this will really be a good thing for you overall... | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:11:43 2000 | Jake> | Yep got the whole IE3. Stupid thing is that it was my first M$ D/L, then I went back for it "sans" mail client, and now I've gone back for "completeness". Wish I could find Word2 and Excel4... | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:13:35 2000 | gregy> | yes....???....I have the 3.11 on my drive...that is what I am running.....I'd offer to do it here but I haven't been up to speed on getting my own webpage up and running, yet...procrastinate etc | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:16:48 2000 | gregy> | I saw something about some of that old Word/Escel stuff....maybe on the Mz site when I was scrounging....yes, I'm dead sure it was on the ftp.microsoft.com, in the deskapps directory | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:17:03 2000 | Jake> | Actually, the new ISP only breaks even if I use it more than 1.5hrs/day (easy!). Hardly anyone uses non-free ISPs in the UK now. But we're charged by the minute for the call, and a failed connection costs a minimum equivalent to a 5 minute call. This new service gives 24/7 (i.e. 24 hours, 7 days a week) access for a single monthly payment. They must have their own Telco agreement. BT have the monopoly on the "final mile", so unless you have cable (not possible out here) whatever cheaper Telco is used, BT still charge for that "final mile". | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:20:24 2000 | Jake> | I checked under Excel4 and Win3.1 but M$ returned the message (all XXkB) that no download was available. There's loads of abandoned commercial software that you can't D/L, but "ancient" shareware goes on for ages... | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:20:42 2000 | gregy> | yes....I just went and looked....when you got to ftp.microsoft.com, LS, and then get the DIRMAP.TXT file....it will show you where they are....there is Word for MSDOS, and Excel and Word for Win, etc.... | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:24:13 2000 | Jake> | And the magazines have the attitude that old software is beneath them, when of course it's the ideal and only solution for many folks. Most of the software I use was cutting-edge in its day! | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:25:43 2000 | gregy> | there is some old WordPerfect for DOS and W31 though, I just saw it's availability a day or two ago....whenever I run onto any of that kind of stuff, would you like me to note it and let you know...??? | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:26:05 2000 | Jake> | Thanx Gregy, I'd been to the M$ website. I'm outta here! | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:27:33 2000 | gregy> | yeh....they think "new is better", but mostly it is just bloateder because it caters to "their" laziness.......<g> | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:31:29 2000 | gregy> | 'night...Jake | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:35:06 2000 | Jake> | Just got the Dirmap from M$ using WS_FTP (IE3 hooked up but wouldn't receive anything). Reminds me of when I started on AOL and would hardly ever go near a webpage coz I was in D/L heaven and ftp was the business. | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:37:23 2000 | Jake> | Night Gregy, must be my normal collapse-time with you -- but I've been right-thru this one. Hooray for weekends! Hope Yo-Yo and Danielle have a good one ;-) | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:38:44 2000 | gregy> | yep....know the feeling | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:39:49 2000 | gregy> | Yeeesssss....I forgot about YoYo and Danielle.. thanks for reminding me.... | |
| Sat Feb 26 11:41:01 2000 | gregy> | YoYo and Danielle......Happy Anniversary...!!! | |
| Sat Feb 26 14:42:05 2000 | gregy> | Has anyone else noticed that Majordomo does not seem to be responding right now.....and the arachnelist seems to have been down for about 18 hours, now... | |
| Sat Feb 26 14:59:47 2000 http://userpages.chorus.net/mtch | Jondo> | Thanks Gregy. I'll look for it there. | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:01:10 2000 | gregy> | yes...yess...indeed....ns.arachne.cz is down.. my mailserver just sent me a warning about my messages being delayed....for over four hours ...refused by ns.arachne.cz....so... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:04:30 2000 | gregy> | Jondo...hi...I am not sure where on the d/l page....and right now, the mail server is down so maybe the d/l page might not be working, either....I'll look tomorrow thru the old digests and see if I can find the posting for it....I'll post something here tonight.. | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:04:34 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | Hmm.. Hi people.. My heart grows bigger and I get all warm 'n fuzzy seeing that I'm not the only dhdcw* left out there.. :) (*=die hard dos commandline warrior) | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:08:58 2000 | gregy> | hey...ltning....that was pretty fast... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:11:00 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | Hehe.. I check my mail every 2 minutes.. ;) | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:11:35 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | Btw.. any clue if Arachne will work in an os2 dos session? using the os2 tcpip services? if not, someone should make it work :) | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:11:39 2000 | gregy> | ltning....you gotta poke "send/refresh" about every minute or so...this chat will not auto refresh/update your screen | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:13:36 2000 | gregy> | yes....Arachne will work in OS/2...either in a DOS box, or as a .IMG boot-alone | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:15:19 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | yea but how do I make it use os2's tcpip stack? | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:15:45 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | I got it installed and everything, but I can't seem to figure out how to set up which packet driver etc... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:16:27 2000 | gregy> | ltning...it works like this.....any dialer will dial you and log you on to your ISP...then it should stand out of the way and let you fire up anything else...(traceroute, ping, browser, etc) that you want to launch.....I had Arachne working on my 2.1 at one time....I don't now, but I might play around with it again... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:18:19 2000 | gregy> | ouch...I have to think about that....better run it temporarily from an .IMG, or from a separate DOS partition on Boot Manager | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:18:25 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | you mean using os2's dialers right? I'm on cable modem here, so I've got perm connection.. So I need Arachne to use the tcp/ip services that OS/2 offers to DOS sessions... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:20:19 2000 | gregy> | the key to using it with the os2 tcpip is in the .CFG files....where it will point to the tcpip that you want it to use.....I never tried to get it on line other than from a .IMG launch | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:23:37 2000 | gregy> | yes....aside...you probably noticed that this chat will be about 2 messages behind, so just keep that in mind, when you read my replies... I'm replying to your 2nd last message... ...yes...using os2 dialer (softterm..??) then it will step asside and let Arachne go...BUT since you have cable modem, that is sort of like being on a LAN, I think/.....??? | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:25:17 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | yea that's like being on a lan.. i am also on a lan, so... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:28:50 2000 | gregy> | this is tricky....I've never tried to run it thru the os2 stack....but...it should go...it should be able to be redirected to use the os2 tcpip....I'll have to dink around with it again tonight....and I only have the 4.0 tcpip on my 2.1.....so, while it should work similar to your 4.1 stack, there may be differences.....HOWEVER ...I JUST remembered I have a OS2 tcpip expert to call on for advice......<g g g>....you.... I'll bet you can give me all the help I need to get Arachne working thru the os2 stack....<g> | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:29:45 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | errrrrm.... and why do you think so??? | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:30:07 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | i thought I was the one asking the q in the 1st place ... ;) | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:31:44 2000 | gregy> | and when the list comes back up again, there are at least one other OS2/Arachne user on there, and I'll put the questions to the rest of the list.....I don't think it should be too impossible.. | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:34:02 2000 | gregy> | Eirik....but me no buts.....I've been to your page...remember...???...you know lots more than I do about the os2 stack....but...one stack is more or less like another stack.....they are ALL tcpip stacks.... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:34:06 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | sounds good. and when does this list come up again? :) | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:35:58 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | hehe i only know about the os2 part of the stack.. not whatever services it does/does not offer the dos sessions :) Btw.. you wouldn't know if there are anything like ftp servers for DOS, would you? I COULD stick in another ne2k card in here and have arachne use that one.. and the ftp server aswell, if that's possible... but then I guess I need a 3rd party stack of some kind...? | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:38:29 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | anyway.. what you said about using an os2 dialer.. that shouldn't make any difference if i use a dialer or if i'm on lan.. the dos session just should take advantage of any kind of net/inet connection I have... At least that's how I imagine it has to work... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:38:37 2000 | gregy> | and....Arachne has an option to setup/config for a LAN....if you hit the "O" key, you will get the options page, and you will see the lan option....now....there is an Arachnoid on this chat....name HOODY...who is a sharpie and is running his Arachne on his own lan, and he is also on the list....there are several others running Arachne on LANs....I am not, now setup for a lan here at home, so I don't have specific answers about it, except that it is being done | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:41:31 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | well lan is one thing.. lan through os2 is another.. but i can't wait to see if it can be done :) | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:42:13 2000 | gregy> | yes...yes...yes...yes...yes....you're getting the idea now....but...Arachne comes with its own TCPIP, djppp, but can easily be configured to use other DOS tcpip stacks...(there are a couple available), but....on the LAN it uses the stack on its host....hhmmmmnnn...???..I think...???...I'll have to ask hoody about that. | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:44:04 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | hehehe :) We'll see. Right now I have to clean up my room... It's almost disgusting in here hehe... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:47:03 2000 | gregy> | well...tonight...I'll fire Arachne up on my 2.1....and while I'm at it, there are two browsers I need to install into my Win-OS2 (an IE3 and aNN4.08) and while I am at it I will put the Nav2.02 back on it....I have a problem...I'm always reconfiguring my hardware and software, so I've been it a transition state for about 3 months...but I'll put it back on and we'll see what shakes out... | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:49:33 2000 http://www.mo.himolde.no/~ltning | Ltning> | hmm.. I really think you should try out either warp4 or even better, aurora... if you have the hardware for it, that is.. | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:49:50 2000 | gregy> | yeh....good night to you...too.....I'm going to bed....oh...the list...it's the one I said you could subscribe to over on the home.arachne.cz page, but right now, the listserver is not responding....his name is Majordomo...you saw my post on this chat just prior to your coming on.....good night/////// | |
| Sat Feb 26 15:52:45 2000 | gregy> | no....I'm not gonna upgrade right now....I've gotta multi-boot config three linux and three 95/98/NT systems and that is taking all my time right now.... | |
| Sat Feb 26 17:06:32 2000 | blownseal> | Are these chats archived? I need more than 49. | |
| Sat Feb 26 17:07:13 2000 | blownseal> | Never mind, duh! | |
| Sat Feb 26 21:40:01 2000 | caverge> | Hi. I guess the list has crapped out again. Just goes to show that Linux can't fix lack of foresight. (Whatever that is) <g> | |
| Sat Feb 26 21:41:18 2000 | caverge> | Time to wake Vitex up again. | |
| Sat Feb 26 22:39:06 2000 | caverge> | Boy, that worked fast. He must have read my mind. | |
| Sat Feb 26 23:24:43 2000 | blownseal> | When I try "show all messages," Netscape has a GPF at 94%. This happened twice. I think the file is just too big for my browser to display. | |
| Sun Feb 27 01:01:57 2000 http://switch.to/arachne | Jake> | Chat archive at link to left. | |
| Sun Feb 27 02:11:01 2000 | gregy> | hi..Jake, blownseal..caverge....Clarence, you say majordomo has woke up...????...I'll go check..... | |
| Sun Feb 27 02:16:56 2000 | gregy> | yep.....list is up again......good going...! caverge...... Jake.....I still appreciate your pages, much... ...but...the switchpage is getting pretty schmaltzy, for you, isn't it....<g g g> | |
| Sun Feb 27 02:21:37 2000 | gregy> | blownseal....Hoody and Jake have got this chat archived....Hoody has the primary on his site down under www.virtualave.???/arach??...(I can never remember this)...and Jake mirrors him thru a switchpage.....the last time I tried to grab the whole chat, it was =~= 3Mbyte but my NetCom 4.08 didn't cough it up...just loaded it right down.... | |
| Sun Feb 27 02:52:00 2000 | Wizard57M> | Just dropped by to say "Hi Folks!"...Hope everyone's weekend is going great...haven't seen much from Yo-Yo...Guess his weekend is going very well with anniversary, hehe ;-) ... | |
| Sun Feb 27 02:55:12 2000 | Wizard57M> | BlownSeal...if you ever have a quesion about something you can always email me if you want, same for anyone here! Send mail to wizard57m@freewwweb.com or to ggilbreath@freewwweb.com...I sometimes remember a lot of the Q&A's from here, and I know a few good places to start looking for other needs for PC, software, etc. | |
| Sun Feb 27 02:57:05 2000 | Wizard57M> | Check with you all later! | |
| Sun Feb 27 04:33:55 2000 | blownseal> | Thanks, Wizard. I may take you up on that. | |
| Sun Feb 27 10:20:39 2000 | The Dude> | Somebody said they were looking for a copy of Microsoft Word 2.0 for DOS on their webpage... I think it may have been Jake... http://mars.spaceports.com/~oldgames/appz/msworddos.zip or possibly http://abanware.cjb.net | |
| Sun Feb 27 11:14:04 2000 | The Dude> | Somebody said they were looking for a copy of Microsoft Word 2.0 for DOS on their webpage... I think it may have been Jake... http://mars.spaceports.com/~oldgames/appz/msworddos.zip or possibly http://abanware.cjb.net | |
| Sun Feb 27 12:08:23 2000 | mihi> | I once had MSWord 5.5 for DOS. Don't have it anymore 'cause LINUX rules more. | |
| Sun Feb 27 12:55:01 2000 | Jake> | Thanks Dude, I'll take a look, though it was Word2 for Windows. I have Word6 but could do with debulking. Gregy, what's with the schmalz? Please interpret! | |
| Sun Feb 27 13:24:04 2000 ftp://ftpd.inprise.com/download/bcppbuilder/FreeCommandLineTools.exe | mihi> | Jepp Piplz Borland gives free its C++ Compiler 5.5 Check tha link! (7.8 Mb) | |
| Sun Feb 27 14:38:55 2000 | Wizard57M> | Hey mihi! Your message rolls right off my screen, LOL! Good thing there's a scroll bar at bottom too! Regarding Word for DOS 5.5, I d/l'd a Y2K updated free version from MS a few months back, dl size about 3.3 megs, if anyone interested, it's the full version too! Works quite well. | |
| Sun Feb 27 18:09:55 2000 | DR AGAL> | ZAZOLC GESLA JAZN zazolc gesla jazn | |
| Sun Feb 27 19:15:52 2000 | Ltning> | If you didn't know, MS-WORD 5.5 for DOS and OS/2 can be downloaded from Microsoft's own webpages for free.... | |
| Sun Feb 27 19:22:03 2000 | Jake> | I've extracted the dialer components from a 16-bit Windows browser package, so if Gregy or someone with a spare machine without a winsock would like to take it for a spin, let me know. | |
| Sun Feb 27 19:25:18 2000 | caverge> | Jake: I'm always looking for a way to get rid of Trumpet. What've you got ?? (Hope it's not MS)<g> | |
| Sun Feb 27 19:32:05 2000 | caverge> | I've just taken a look at that abondonware site. Some really good stuff there. Does anyone know if it is truly LEGALLY abandoned ? | |
| Sun Feb 27 19:49:30 2000 | Jake> | Caverge, Hi! Now, I have to be careful as these Chats are indexed when they get to be archived, so no names, no pack-drill. But your suspicion is correct. When I wanted to throw out Tpt a year ago it was a hassle finding an alternative, but I test webpages on IE3, NN3, Opera and A so I have to live with a lot of excess baggage. Others may want Opera only on a Win3.1x system. They'll have to be determined/lucky to ever find "my" offering. The installation is less than 1.7MB (I know, I know....but you can delete a fair bit.) The download will be 631kB. I'm going off to eat now -- mail me and I'll tell you the location ;-) | |
| Sun Feb 27 23:39:22 2000 11 | YoYo> | I,m testing IE4 over here. Tell's me about DHCP messages or something. Must figger out sometime. Looking for Word 5.5 at MS.com didn't work, completer URL's are welcome. BTW, just installed my 'old' Win95 and some business-apps, so I can use some programs before I find DOS-progs or before I have to learn other OSes. All: Thanks for congrats. | |
| Sun Feb 27 23:42:26 2000 11 | YoYo> | Gregy: (or others) Is the A mailing list only for registered users or for everybody. How can I access it? I was reading it sometimes at archive, but want to post some as well. | |
| Mon Feb 28 00:30:14 2000 | Wizard57M> | Yo-Yo...if my memory serves me correctly, MS WORD 5.5 for DOS can be located at the Microsoft Office update site...should be a link at the main MS web page at http://www.microsoft.com or maybe at http://www.microsoft.com/office ...If you can't find it there, I have it on 3 diskettes...I "split" the download file, put each piece on diskette, to re-assemble use DOS COPY /B command, like COPY /B part1+part2+part3 MSWD55.EXE | |
| Mon Feb 28 00:46:08 2000 | caverge> | Yoyo: Send an email to: majordomo@arachne.cz Subject: irrelevant Message: subscribe arachne end That "end" is important. Then just reply or post to the list. Registered or otherwise. | |
| Mon Feb 28 00:47:28 2000 | caverge> | Yoyo: "end" should be on separate line I think. This HTML crap is annoying. | |
| Mon Feb 28 00:57:12 2000 | caverge> | Has anyone had any luck getting Robin to respond to suggestions ? If there was some way to specify the font for chat as fixed, then maybe the page width wouldn't keep changing and text would appear as intended. | |
| Mon Feb 28 01:30:30 2000 | YoYo> | Now I used IE4, with Java, but activeX scripts did not work on MS own website: I saw more with A then with IE4, ain't that funny? Caverge, thanks, I'll go try it as soon as I can boot in DR-DOS again (still busy with re-arranging 6 Gig). | |
| Mon Feb 28 01:55:02 2000 | Wizard57M> | YoYo...I've used MSIE vs 2 thru 5 now ;-), I have 5.01 on my 486 dualboot PC, IE 3.03 on the WIN3X PC at work (16bit)--it's the one with the Shiva PPP dialer (a decent dialer too, just can't figure out all the necessary DLLs to make separate installation ,yet ;-) --at work 3.03 doesn't do Java well at all, but some scripts work, but not Javascripts?? You'll be busy a while re-arranging 6 gigs, bud! My general rule of thumb re: Java/ActiveX--if less than 16 megs RAM, forget it for most part! Might get by with 12 meg on some sites. Besides, WIN3X doesn't do Java well anyhow, not enough "USER" resources, tends to lock my work machine :-( , reboot, but it ain't like that's the first time, eh? Hehe! | |
| Mon Feb 28 02:00:18 2000 | Wizard57M> | And now I have my old PS2 55SX running DosLynx 0.16, NetMail 2.12, IRC 1.01, and a couple of other goodies, like a time setting util, tcpinfo, all on a machine with a 20mHz 386 CPU, 1 meg total RAM, 29 meg HD (DriveSpace compressed to 49meg) connected with a 2400 baud modem on MS DOS 6.22! Am I connected or what? Hahahaha! See all of ya later...I'm thinking about "ZIPPING" up all of my Internet goodies into one archive file, call it Wizard's Internet Pack for Ancient PCs, hehe! Any takers? Bye for now ;-) | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:05:53 2000 | gregy> | caverge....no...Robin hasn't responded to three messages I have sent requesting someone to pull all the 1999 posts off this chat so we can get "all messages" down on a standard Arachne.. | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:16:17 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy: How do you hide partitions for Win9x/NT? And do you know if it's possible to boot Win9x on an extended partition with LILO? | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:25:22 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....the list will distribute to anyone, it they're registered or not....I just sent ltning over there last night to sign up for it, and he just d/l Arachne last night for the 1st time... but...I encourage everyone to register Arachne ...you don't get TOO much more functionality in the registered copy since the shareware copy is almost completely functional....BUT...you get the satisfaction of supporting this really nifty browser's creator, and his continuing upgrade improvements that he is religiously doing on an ongoing basis.... | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:43:30 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy: I did register many programs before and than I quit using them. Some authors even won't respond on my request to register. XChaos never answered an e-mail about registering for a lower price. Waiting for another registering key at the moment as well. So, maybe later. | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:46:45 2000 | YoYo> | I reg'd many Win9X progs, and after two months I did not use it anymore untill now. I am afraid that after reg'ng DOS-progs, I switch over to Linux. Than after a few years I bought sooo many software and still have nothing to use! | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:50:44 2000 | gregy> | YoYo...I'm sorry...I missed your 2nd last post amd didn't respond.... | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:53:49 2000 | gregy> | YoYo...that was NOT the arachne "nag" message.. I "encourage" people to register, but never will muscle them.....I understand.....but...I did register this thing, almost immediately, because I recognized an app I would be using "forever"<g> | |
| Mon Feb 28 03:57:41 2000 | gregy> | YoYo......I hide my partitions using IBM Boot Manager, which I got many years ago, with my OS/2 v2.0....it is available as more-or-less "non-commercial shareware"...no registration as long as you ane not using it commerciallly... I have seen it included with (I think) Caldera OpenLinux and maybe with RedHatLinux distributions.....it also is included with the latest Partition Magic distribution..... | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:01:29 2000 | gregy> | YoYo.......LILO is stated in one of my Linux manuals as being usable with W09/NT, but I have not let it up.....but it known to work as a multiple-system boot manager.....I'll be doing somethings with one of my Linux distribution this next week, and will check it out, it I am not REALLY rushed <g>.....I will get back to you later...... | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:03:10 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy: I think I go get one of the newer Linux distr. I was still wandering between Caldera and Corel, maybe the bootmngr makes the decission for me. BTW, I still think I go pay xChaos after I used it long enough. But can you boot Win9x on extended part.? | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:09:44 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....you know about the "only 4 partitions" ..etc...restrictions on this HDD stuff...??? you can have 4-partitions-max....the first three can be Primary (hideable) and one extended (and it can be split into numerous partitions - that is other Drive: letters).....for normal DOS, without dos-FAT-extended utilities (either loaded as drivers, or included in somekind of on-HDD-controller Bios) you have to keep the Boot Manager and LILO installs within the first 527Mbytes on any one drive, so that DOS will see that LILO/BtMgr so you can get the switching effect from one OS to another | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:12:55 2000 | gregy> | hey...YoYo....your still here...I thought I was posting for you to read later..... W98...yes...it can be booted on extended, using the LILO or Boot Mgr.... | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:16:56 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....BtMgr can be used with ANY operating system.....I am not sure how it installs using the dist. for Linux, I always us an os2 boot disk, but, the one with Part.Magic and Linux MUST work with being booted from DOS, so try it.....BUT....DO install to a clean HDD, or on to a HDD that you have backed up.. | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:21:38 2000 | gregy> | btw...hope you and Danielle had nice "anni" and you MUST have seen all the "best wishes" posts here on the chat......<g> | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:27:30 2000 | Yiyi> | Who can help me? | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:31:04 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy: 1st: thank you for best wishes. I have about 10 part's now, because DR-DOS can't read the FAT32 and 2Gig FAT16 is too much waste. But if one prim. part. is FAT16, Win9x won't install correctly on other prim.part.(FAT32). Have 4 OSes now installed and that took a while. Hoped you where veeery experienced, so I didn't need to take the risk. But I guess, I can check it on second box (has 3 OSes now, but only 500 MB). | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:31:55 2000 | YoYo> | Yiyi: Funny name you have. Help with what? | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:42:47 2000 | Bob-bo> | Yivi, what do you need, there is plenty of DOS and Arachne help here. | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:44:46 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....funny hame YOU'VE got, too....<g>...but yes...need to keep those FAT16 partitions down to a limit.....and I think is GOOD, but many will dispute that..... No, W98 can be MADE to install to an extended, I just don't know offhand the steps....I am veeeery experienced, I just don't have any memory...!!!!.<ggg> and I refuse to give you the "how-to" off the top of my head... | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:46:54 2000 | gregy> | hi...Bob-bo..... YOYO....what are you using now, to multi-boot your 4-OS's....???? | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:47:18 2000 | Bob-bo> | YoYo, I posted Happy Anniversery to Danielle a couple of days ago, same to you. In April, mein Frau et moi come up on #47, i.e. 1953. | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:49:57 2000 | gregy> | Bob-bo....and congratulations to you folks, too ...not many stay together nowdays, past the "I FEEL so good" stage.... | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:50:48 2000 | YoYo&Danielle> | Bob-bo: Wow, 47!!! | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:52:34 2000 | gregy> | hey...YoYo&Danielle....you're NOT supposed to double-seat your KYBD....stop that...!!! | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:53:12 2000 | Bob-bo> | gregy, thanx. I notice that a lot of your good advice has to do with work-arounds for Windoze problems. Dump the Win and go all DOS' | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:56:39 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy: I normally used only DR-DOS and sometimes struggle with Linux. Boot Linux with Loadlin from DOS (Choose there with BATch-file which Linux to boot (2 installed)). Than I installed Win95 on extended with only bootfiles on C:. Than re-installed DR-DOS for dual-boot on one partition. This must change, but I installed Win95 a few hours ago, still busy. | |
| Mon Feb 28 04:58:46 2000 | gregy> | I'd love to Bob-bo....but my customers are ALL (well, mostly) running that Mz junk...I tried to stay away from it for years...just DRDOS and my beautiful OS/2, but it got too painful telling plaintive requests for help from Mz users, and, then, one of my big accounts (200+) sites, went from OS/2 to NT3.51....go figure....so I had to get into the Mz junk....well, it keeps beans on the table and catfood in the dishes....even tho I sometimes feel like a bloodsucker on the necks of these poor suckers. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:00:08 2000 | YoYo> | Bob-bo: Many people MUST use Win, it's no real choice. I agree DOS is easier, specially on a 486, which I use now. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:01:25 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....I see...then you will HAVE to get the Boot Mgr somewhere.....maybe I can extract it from my PartMagic dist....I'll have to get back to you next week....look for me here on this chat, most evenings....(0200-0600 Prague time) | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:04:33 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, I refused to use the M$ things for a while either, but people who use DOS, never pay me to solve their problems. 10 minutes work in Win9x and people are soooo happy that it works again, they are grateful for a loooong time. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:07:55 2000 | YoYo> | Gregy, you can mail me as well. (I,m not always able to answer here on this chat, A often hangs here, with some xSwap messages). | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:09:14 2000 | gregy> | yeh....YoYo....and I feel so BAD about taking their money,,,,,except THEY chose to get that stuff, so I'm not gonna feel guilty about it | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:10:31 2000 | blownseal> | I had to uninstall IE5 because it was such a fat pig--I couldn't stand to have it on my system just to get the dialer for freewwweb. So now I need a new dialer. I found a page called "Modem Dialers for Windows 3x"-- http://win3x.tucows.com/softdial.html but NetCom4.08 hangs when I try to load it. If anyone can look at that page for me, let me know if there are any decent dialers 1.4MB or smaller. If you can tell me the name of the file, I can download it at work. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:12:32 2000 | gregy> | YoYo....your email link is on my hotlist now... where is .nl...Nederlands..?? | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:15:34 2000 | gregy> | blownseal.....Jake posted his email tonight... you can get it by "49-messages"...he found something for separate dialer for W31...and, I think Wizard57M's post also included his email and he is using a separate dialer on freewwweb | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:15:37 2000 11 | YoYo> | Blownseal: I use UKA_PPP, it's for DOS, but maybe for Win as well. Can use it as internet-client, or in my case, it is the connection between ISDN-packet-driver and Arachne. It's less than 2 MB and you can throw away some files. Can look for the URL if you want. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:19:17 2000 | gregy> | also.....blownseal....you can load the IE3 and use its dialer ANYWHERE.....I've got it in two folders on my W31, and had it on several more.. it doesn't care what you are launching after it has done its dialing job for you...it just steps back out of the way.....go get the IE3 d/l fro Mz... | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:19:18 2000 http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/ | YoYo> | Gregy: Ja, Nederland. Blownseal: http://mvmpc9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/public/uka_ppp/ | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:28:40 2000 | gregy> | blownseal....a lot of people on the list, use that UKA_PPP that YoYo is suggesting...they seem to have good results with it.... | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:29:52 2000 | gregy> | sorry, YoYo.. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:30:14 2000 | gregy> | sorry | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:31:04 2000 | gregy> | sorry | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:31:33 2000 | gregy> | ss | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:32:12 2000 | gregy> | s | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:32:52 2000 | gregy> | s | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:35:20 2000 7 | gregy> | okay...YoYo...got that "noble URL" you posted up and off the screen.....I put the uka_ppp link in my links book too.... | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:35:25 2000 http:////win3x.tucows.com/softdial.html | blownseal> | Thanks, YoYo! That page loads much easier. I think when I got NetCom 4.08, I got it through tucows, but the link to the left hangs me. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:37:01 2000 http://win3x.tucows.com/softdial.html | blownseal> | Of course, the link has only two slashes. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:39:10 2000 | gregy> | blownseal...what are you trying to load that link with...Arachne..???..or NetCom408...??? | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:39:38 2000 | blownseal> | Thanks gregy--I bookmarked the site. | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:44:07 2000 | gregy> | blownseal....YoYo....Bob-bo....I gotta go ..catch you tomorrow night... | |
| Mon Feb 28 05:52:41 2000 | YoYo> | See ya, Gregy. I gotta go to. | |
| Mon Feb 28 19:53:07 2000 | mihi> | hey noone 'round tha whole day? | |
| Tue Feb 29 00:05:15 2000 | Sk8erHottie> | Hey Peeps | |
| Tue Feb 29 00:29:56 2000 | T_A_G> | Hi Guys! Thanx to Jake, I'm Window'ed again! Blownseal: I just downloaded "NET DIAL" from Tucows (www3x.tucows.com in Win 3.x dir) it DL'ed fine and I haven't run it as yet (DL just completed) but it's supposed to be a Windows 3.x TC/IP with Dialer package that allows you to set up -multiple- accounts for diff ISPs. Think that's what you're looking for? If so, check out NET DIAL v2.76b at http://win3x.tucows.com. Well, lesse, APRIL brings with it: The release of Star Wars: Episode 1 to video The release of American Psycho - to theatres and Bob-Bo und his frowrs Anniversary! Gonna be one heck of a month that April! :) -- TAG Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Earth, Sometimes. | |
| Tue Feb 29 00:35:22 2000 | T_A_G> | P.S: Blownseal, if it's hanging, check your HD space. Calculate that you need about 2 und a third times the size of the file you're DLing, because the DLs also gets tossed into Cache directory. So that's filesize x 2. All I can think of on why the DL is hanging, unless it was just a bad day with slow connection. I had no problems DL'ing Net Dial and Explorer 3 from Tucows just a few minutes ago. If it continues to hang on you, let me know and I'll try to find another site with Net Dial v2.76b -- TAG Montreal, Quebec, Canada, Earth, Sometimes. | |
| Tue Feb 29 00:38:30 2000 | blownseal> | Gregy--I was trying to load that link with NetCom 4.08. I don't understand why, but certain pages make the browser hang. I expected that when I had 8MB RAM, but I recently upgraded to 20MB with memory I bought from crucial.com. The situation is much better overall, but certain pages hang me for some reason. | |
| Tue Feb 29 00:50:56 2000 | blownseal> | TAG--I got NetDial from work today. It seemed to connect to freewwweb whether I entered a password or not, but I couldn't find any place to enter DNS settings. Let me know if you get it to work with freewwweb. It's shareware, though, and I don't want to pay to register it (it's against my religion). | |
| Tue Feb 29 00:55:03 2000 | blownseal> | TAG--I have 1.5 gigabytes free on my hard drive. Also, I don't have a problem downloading files, just loading pages, like when I try to "show all messages" in Arachne Chat and it hangs at 94%. Most pages are not a problem, and Java seems to work, though it takes awhile to load, but occasionally I'll get a page that hangs me. Then I have to avoid that page. | |
| Tue Feb 29 01:00:37 2000 | blownseal> | Maybe I'll try that UKA_PPP. I can't use Arachne yet because my modem is an RPI modem and the software for it only works in Windows. To use it in DOS, the program you're using has to support it, which Arachne doesn't. Oh well, there's always the hope that I'll get a real modem some day. | |
| Tue Feb 29 01:01:42 2000 | blownseal> | Come to think of it, maybe I can't use UKA_PPP either. I would need for it to work in Win 3.1. | |
| Tue Feb 29 01:34:32 2000 | Jake> | Blownseal: the easiest way for you to get a free Win3.1x dialer is to DL the MSIE3 package or mail me for the dialer location (you'd need to edit a couple of your system files to make it work). | |
| Tue Feb 29 01:44:15 2000 | blownseal> | Thanks, Jake. I sent you an e-mail. Also, I added my address to my name to the left. | |
| Tue Feb 29 01:48:16 2000 | blownseal> | Is the MSIE dialer y2k compliant? | |
| Tue Feb 29 01:48:47 2000 | blownseal> | Version 3, I mean. | |
| Tue Feb 29 02:11:17 2000 | Jake> | The dialer is, but I've been told the mail client is not. But that was by a German user and when I checked at M$ a couple of days ago there was a statement that the German version of IE3 was not Y2K compliant, but for different reasons than the mail. I'll send you the dialer location right away... | |
| Tue Feb 29 02:22:00 2000 | blownseal> | Got it. Thanks, Jake! I'm going to download it now. | |
| Tue Feb 29 02:43:29 2000 | T_A_G> | Hey Blownseal, Yeh, there's an explanation here yer missing. Most dialers (like Net Dial) don't have their own Winsock, they just connect for you and then hand control over to Trumpet/Winsock as the PPP or Slip driver. So if you're using Net Dial or any dialer that lets you set up multiple accounts you have to tell it to pass control over to Trumpet. Pain in the butt, cause you have to configure Trumpet to dynamically assign slash "read in" the info for you, so you're messing with multiple configs. I'm looking for some OTHER PPP/Slip protocol driver other than Winsock und needing Trumpet, myself, but with Windows 3.11 options are limited. 1st off you gotta have your Windows set up, then Trumpet then Netscape or Explorer. Then if you want a multi-dialer, you still wind up going back to Trumpet, to mess with the configs. Everything in Win 3.1 evolves around Winsock for Internet connections. Unless we find another PPP/Slip driver and Dialer-combo that will work with Windows and be less of a headache to config. Bottom line is that your settings-hell all begins and ends with Trumpet Winsock's config (with your present setup). Dialers won't help unless they're independent of needing Trumpet Winsock or any brand of Winsock config. Speaking of which, if anyone knows of a Windows 3.11 PPP/Slip driver with Dialer OTHER than Trumpet Winsock, that is easier to config, PLEASE let me know too! -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 29 02:50:25 2000 | T_A_G> | Open Question HELP! This is a shot in the dark 'ere, but I set up Explorer 3 with Winsock on a Win 3.11 system and I CANNOT get past the login at my ISP. Everytime I connect it sends "login:" I have it send my username, which works fine, then the ISP responds "host presently unavailable" and dumps the line. That's with Trumpet Winsock. Yet, I can call back 2 seconds later with Arachne and get right onto my ISP with NO PROBLEM. Any Clues? I'm thinking that "Login:" must not be the equiv of "Username" as I have been led to believe, perhaps it expects something else at the Login: prompt? I'll be calling my ISP tomorrow, but they're pretty well much useless with sorta stuff, they just say "get Windows 98". :( -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 29 02:57:09 2000 | Lunar> | TAG Do they want a password maybe? | |
| Tue Feb 29 03:05:29 2000 | T_A_G> | I was about to respond "Very funny" Lunar, but you never know :) It never shows that it is asking for the password, that's the whole thing, it says "Login:" my script sends my username which appears on screen, the screen sits there for a few secs, then it responds "Host presently Unavailable" and dumps the line. Never gets as far as even -asking- for the password, that I can see. I've tried Trumpet's PAP, I've tried manual login, I've tried the Trumpet script login. It always responds "Host Presently Unavailable" - which is a load of excrement, cause it works fine and is "available" to Arachne's PPP auto-login. -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 29 03:29:02 2000 | Jake> | First off -- dump Trumpet and use the IE3 dialer! Second -- when I was using Trumpet there was something like my ISP wanting "ssword" instead of "assword" for the password prompt. | |
| Tue Feb 29 03:31:07 2000 | YoYo> | Blownseal: On the UKA_PPP-page, I saw a proggie which is called 'windial.exe'. This can be what you need, I don't know (it is very small). | |
| Tue Feb 29 04:41:43 2000 | blownseal> | Thanks, Jake. No trepidation on the IE3 dialer. Did you get my Juno e-mail? | |
| Tue Feb 29 04:43:05 2000 | Bob-bo> | Forget Trumpet and IE and the rest of that stuff and just dial up with Arachne. | |
| Tue Feb 29 04:45:56 2000 | blownseal> | TAG--I've had a similar experience. You are looking at a terminal window, right? Can you disable "Open in Terminal?" When that happens to me, sometimes I can't even type at the cursor. If I get my user name in where it says "login", then it asks for my password, and I can't even type anything. | |
| Tue Feb 29 04:57:57 2000 | T_A_G> | We Have Lift-Off! Thanx to Jake (again!) who got me a link to the IE dialer - which INCLUDES its own PPP TC/IP driver! Trumpet Winsock has ceremoneously been dumped into the bit bucket und booted into oblivion, und I am online with Explorer. One thing, Explorer t'aint as fast as Arachne! But I needed Explorer set up to see what was going on with my Yahoo mail. I can get to my Yahoo mail now. WooHoo! Thanx to Jake, who wins the award for coolest tech bloke I ever encountered! (next to the other Arachnid's in here of course - yer all great) Blownseal: if you're in contact with Jake, he gave me a link to the IE dialer, I'm on with it, it works, you can drop-kick Trumpet once its installed! only one thing: the IRQ setting might be mucked up in the IE dialer, I had to manually config it (it was set to "3" it needed to be set to 4 for Com1) - but it works! -- TAG | |
| Tue Feb 29 05:27:54 2000 http://sloppytobin.hypermart.net | The Dude> | Well, I believe the Trumpet Winsock dialler to be superior the the M$ one anyday, but if it works for you then who am I to whine? Re the slow speed, if you have a fairly old PC the ports might be limited to 9600 BPS. This was the case with my old machine. Try putting the speed down to 9600 and see if that creates any speed improvement. | |
| Tue Feb 29 20:52:03 2000 | Stef.> | Wasn't here for a long time. I fixed my connection problems, but it seems i missed a lot here... | |
| Tue Feb 29 22:53:42 2000 | blownseal> | Jake--Thanks for helping a Yankee. The IE3 dialer installed real nice. YoYo--Thanks for the tip. I may try it eventually. TAG--i'm on with freewwweb and the IE3 dialer thanks to Jake. The IE3 dialer from Jake connects great, but it has the same problem as the IE5 dialer had--I can go to any of my bookmarks and to any address I type in, but I can't get anywhere clicking on links. The homepage--home.freewwweb.com loads, but then I can't even get back to it in the same session (not that I'd want to). Freewwweb says host should be lower case word and domain should be "smartworld.net" DNS should be enabled, but I don't know where to find these. I loaded the Primary and Secondary DNS numbers O.K. Meanwhile, it I connect with Earthlink dialer using the same browser (NetCom 4.08), I don't have this problem. Bob- bo--I can't use Arachne with my modem--maybe someday. | |
| Tue Feb 29 22:57:23 2000 | blownseal> | Are you guys having leap year problems? Don't go into date/time in Control Panel in Windows 3.1 until after Feb. 29 is over. It's fine unless you go in and notice that it doesn't read right. If you just leave it alone it will roll over o.k. This is all according to M$, so I don't know. | |
| Tue Feb 29 23:07:19 2000 | blownseal> | Jake--I think I sent you the same e-mail twice, last night on Juno and just now on Earthlink. That's what happens when you get old. | |
| Tue Feb 29 23:37:58 2000 | Bob-bo> | Stef, I've filed a formal complaint with the FM station that plays through my organ. Did you do any good with Austrian Network? | |